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it's just that simple. Don't forget to exercise out of depression...

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  • AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not the go outside part but exercise helps a lot. Most people like to ignore the part where a lot of people with depression work three jobs and dont have time/money for a gym

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    • TheDoozer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also, telling a depressed person their answer is to exercise is like telling a homeless person that they just need to get a job. The not having a home prevents the getting a job. If they had the ability to find a job, they wouldn’t be homeless (except obviously the people who don’t make enough from their job to support themselves, but that’s a whole different issue that shouldn’t exist).

      So even if someone does have the time, getting the depression under control may be necessary before the exercise seems like a reasonable possibility.

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      • capt_wolf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Dealing with a client at work who is going through this. Severely depressed, suicidal tendencies, will not exercise despite knowing it has helped him in the past. He knows what he needs to do, but we also know damn well that he’s going to go straight up to his room and play video games all day.

        Motivating is extremely difficult when it comes to severe depression. You can’t just point out what they need to do. Doing so will likely just deepen their depression because they already know. Getting people to understand that not every brain works the same or responds to the same kind of reinforcements is incredibly frustrating.

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    • zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Exercise can help a lot depending on the source of the depression. My walking fast for an hour a day only helped a little (don’t worry, I’m better now).

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  • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sunlight is proven to improve health indicators and have a positive impact on depressive traits.

    It alone won’t cure you.

    However if someone is drowning because they’re weighed down by wet clothing you may not save them by removing the weighted hoodie they’re wearing but you will have helped them.

    There is no one cure for depression but almost ALL of the suggestions actually work in small incremental ways.

    One of the hardest parts about escaping depression is making the deliberate decision to compel yourself to make the small incremental changes that will help remove the weighted wet clothing that is drowning you. You may not be out of the sea but your ability to not drown will be much improved.

    Sunlight + Sleep + Exercise are quite literally one of the best tools you can enact on your own in an effort to combat depression. They are not fixes.

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    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As someone who struggles with chronic illness and depression, I believe you’re right.

      I’m not a psychologist, but I’ve spent a lot of time with them learning about depression and how to live with it. It’s all about incremental change. When I realize I’m slipping back into a depressive funk, I have to figure out what I did to dig this hole and start addressing that to get myself out. It’s a matter of days or weeks. I’m not special. If I was special, I wouldn’t get depressed. I just found what works for me through trial and error.

      On the flip side, I have a friend who has been mired in depression for years now. He doesn’t try to change his behavior. He has an inconsistent sleep schedule, rarely goes outside, eats poorly, doesn’t exercise, plays video games 12+ hours most days, and, what I’d say is most important of all, won’t see a therapist to deal with his current and early childhood issues. He seems to think that playing more video games, sleeping more, and avoiding any and all unpleasantness will make him better.

      I’ve run into a few people like this and they seem to reflexively write off helpful advice for incremental change. You suggest something like starting out with a 5 minute walk, once a day, just to establish a healthy habit. The response? “A five minute walk isn’t going to cure my depression”. No shit, no one suggested it would. It’s just a start to managing it.

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    • Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah the thing that is so hard is that none of the individual actions feel successful. But overtime they pay off. You have to build a guest house for happiness and keep it clean. So the next time he shows up, maybe he’ll stay awhile.

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    • Alenalda@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As someone who spends 10+hr a day working outside I can assure you that being outside and doing physical activity does very little to aid my depression.

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    • grepe@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      mhm… and what if you just had a kid and moved away from helping family to a country which thinks that paid medical leave or reasonable parental leave are luxuries not worth having? have you ever tried to get more than 3h of sleep in a row while taking care of a newborn? good luck going for a run after that! if it also happens to be a winter you may need to wait until spring for that sunlight too. good that we at least have parental groups to socialize… unless you are stay at home dad that is, cause trying to talk about restarting your career after the break might not sit well in a group that mostly connects on how their childbirth went…

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      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re in the “blame everything else” stage, you have to get to the part where you compel yourself to do these things despite that.

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  • qevlarr@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Never mind the “thanks I’m cured” vibes, but mild exercise does improve mental health a lot. Going outside for a stroll in nature is great. I know it’s still difficult when your brain just wants you to curl up into a ball all day, but the idea isn’t bad.

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    • zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you’re prone to spiraling into negative thoughts when left along to think, listen to music or something. Without it I found that immediately during and after exercise I felt worse which outweighed any benefit.

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      One of my coworkers has been doing daily hikes with a friend who moved across the country. Every morning one will shoot the other a text when they get up, then call when they start their walk. It’s both a good way to stay close with a good friend but also helps both maintain a healthy habit

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  • lath@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It really is that simple. But simple doesn’t make it easy.

    Simple stuff is often the hardest to succeed in. Sure, you can do it, but can you do it well? Repeatedly? Over a long period of time?

    Doesn’t sound so simple anymore. But that’s because the simplicity is a starting point. You build on it, make a foundation you can depend on and fall back to when things go wrong.

    Going outside or exercising are simple things, but make no mistake, they’re also a lifestyle. They become a part of who you are, something to cherish, protect and develop that you dedicate a part of each day to. And that’s not an easy thing to do. But once you do it, you’ll know it was worth the hard work.

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    • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also, exercise has been shown to help with mild to moderate depression symptoms. It is not a cure as some would make you believe. But it certainly does help, and help quite a bit it can.

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      • zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is this how I find out I was wrong when I thought my depression wasn’t that bad?

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    • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can they really be beneficial? Sure.

      Are they actually a magic wand against genuine mental illness? No.

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    • snooggums@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hey look, it worked!

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  • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    1. Get off doomscrolling
    2. get out
    3. drink enough
    4. get fucked (by that I mean due to exhaustion because you did some sports or whatever)
    5. Less sugar

    Don’t do all at once. But stop doomscrolling. Don’t let the company algorithm tell you what’s good for you.

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    • Emmie@lemmings.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah doomscrolling is single worst thing you can do to yourself online

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also take showers when you feel like it, not when it’s appropriate. Well, at least put some water on your face and make your feet wet, if shower is not an option.

      (At least that helps me personally.)

      The “less sugar” advice is good.

      The physical exhaustion advice is good.

      But frankly all this seems connected to that cluster of autism\depression\ADHD or something. Getting more dopamine, reducing prolactin, reducing bodily disregulation, something like that.

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      • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can totally agree with the showers! If I’m too tired for a shower I also just sponge-clean my armpits and stuff just to feel cleaner.

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    just because on one end some people might think depression is easy to get over doesn’t mean you have stand on the other end pretending nothing ever helps mental health.

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  • BetaBlake@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok, but have you?

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  • bruhduh@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • bruhduh@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • Tugboater203@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Shouldn’t there be some Cheeto dust on the fingers?

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    • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Aww chitch 😭

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  • zcd@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you’re gonna be depressed might as well be jacked

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tried that a long time ago. Didnt do jack

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  • Suavevillain@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know it does help. I plan on improving my health and fitness this year. I just gotta figure out how to get started.

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    • feddylemmy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What worked for me was starting out slow, but making sure being consistent was my priority. I forced myself to go on short walks at least 3x a week and stuck to it. It kind of grew on its own from there.

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      • Suavevillain@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That is good advice, I will do that.

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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean… it somewhat works? It won’t fix all your issues, but you will feel better, and it’s a good first part to get out of the depression. Although, I guess most people won’t be able to do that without some prescribed medication.

    Speaking from my experience I mostly defeated my depression just by myself, even though I still feel depressed from time to time. But it is also a part of my character to not seek help from others, because in my childhood and in later years, no one really helped me in any major year, so I learned to force getting myself into be better shape, just because at some time in my life it felt like the only rational thing to do.

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  • the_doktor@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exercise and going outside makes me have depression and mental illness.

    Almost like… some people are different. Shocking, I know. Wish musclebrains who can’t understand people who enjoy being inside and left alone would stop with this BUT JUST EXERCISE kick they’re on to make us “just like them.”

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  • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exercise doesn’t help, obviously, everyone knows that, but have you tried smiling? At least a little?

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  • Theme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wow this really worked. Thanks everyone, I’m cured!

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