Coconuts 🥥

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• outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Straight into my piña colada

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Doesn’t it get old that you’re always getting caught in the rain when drinking those?

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  • Pantrygheist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Oh no, maybe they were carried by a bird?

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    • Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Suppose they grasped it by the husk?

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  • tiotok@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Came here for this reply.

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• jellyhuemul@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  and carried by swallows ofc

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  • Devdogg@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    African or European swallows?

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    • jellyhuemul@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      african definitively

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    • Zachariah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I don’t know. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagg!

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Polynesian swallows, obviously.

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  • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Like catnip for nerds

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    • modifier@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I sensed the joke from a few instances over.

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  • HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Or gorillas with coconut-based weaponry that fires in spurts

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• Not_mikey@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  According to wikipedia this is the less likely and imo less interesting explanation. They did find coconuts that are genetically distinct from the ones the Spanish brought over from the Philippines, but those ones are more distantly related to the ones in polynesia so they probably didn’t float over. Instead they are more likely evidence of pre-columbian contact of Polynesians with south and central America, along with sweet potatoes originating in South America but being present in polynesia and SEA prior to columbus.

  So this would boot Columbus off the podium in people who discovered America.

  1. Bering strait people
  2. Polynesian people
  3. Vikings, Leif Erickson
  4. Columbus

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  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I personally like the “literally everyone else got their first” theory as a joke that suggests that Mansa Musa’s predecessor and the Ming Dynasty treasure fleets also happened to get there, granted with Mansa Musa’s predecessor making a one way trip and with the treasure fleets not actually having realized they’d hit a distinct landmass.

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    • venoft@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Reading about rue treasure fleet is wild:

      The Chinese expeditionary fleet was heavily militarized and carried great amounts of treasures, which served to project Chinese power and wealth to the known world. They brought back many foreign ambassadors whose kings and rulers were willing to declare themselves tributaries of China. During the course of the voyages, they destroyed Chen Zuyi’s pirate fleet at Palembang, captured the Sinhalese Kotte kingdom of King Alakeshvara, and defeated the forces of the Semudera pretender Sekandar in northern Sumatra.

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  • No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Your point is valid, but less funny and will therefore be ignored

    (Thank you for fact checking)

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  • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    If I remember correctly, the Polynesians went there from South America, not the other way around.

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    • Taniwha420@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      IRC the genetics don’t support that. It looks more like Polynesians originate from the area around Taiwan, sharing DNA with the indigenous Taiwanese. Again IRC there are some South American genes present in the Easter Island or Tahiti area, which seem to have been introduced pre-European contact. It’s tricky to tell though because there has been so much sharing of genetics since then. It looks like maybe some Polynesians went to South America one or a few times and returned.

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  • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Is there a consensus already over the relative position of #1 and #2 of your list?

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• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Coconuts were introduced to the Caribbean region by humans. They didn’t just float there.

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  • 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Great, now I don’t know what to believe

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    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      link.springer.com/article/…/s12229-013-9121-z

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    • black_mouflon@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      They were actually carried by birds. See this documentary. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_9kDO3q0w&t=44 /s

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    • MintyFresh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      You always believe the latest thing presented to you, no matter how ridiculous. It was obviously the very same time travelers who masquerade as pyramid building aliens, whom are also responsible for Winnipeg, the Harlem shake, and the noble platypus. Getting all willy nilly with the coconuts, fuckin degens.

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  • macrocephalic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Just on statistics, it seems unlikely that in the period of time that coconuts have been floating around that they would only have made it there about the same time as explorers. Surely if they could make it there floating then they would have much earlier.

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• AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  This is nonsense. Coconuts were spread by humans.

  Such an origin indicates that the coconuts were not introduced naturally, such as by sea currents. The researchers concluded that it was brought by early Austronesian sailors to the Americas from at least 2,250 BP, and may be proof of pre-Columbian contact between Austronesian cultures and South American cultures.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut#:~:text=Indo-Atlant….

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  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Git outta here wit yer wet blanket of historical accuracy! 😛

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• Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  if they floated over then they’re definitely way older than 500 years.

  prob just 500 years because that’s when mayo sources go back

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  • doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Yeah. It’s pretty hard to believe they just “floated” over considering sweet potatos mde it to the Philippines from south America. Clearly those didn’t float over. Someone else posted a scientific article providing evidence that humans brought the coconut to the Americas

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• NounsAndWords@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  “Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?”

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• essell@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  How many coconuts sacrificed their lives to achieve colonising the new lands?

  Its a level of reproductive attrition rivalling a teenage boy’s bedroom sock

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• halloween_spookster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  If they came from Asia to the Caribbean via the Pacific, how did they traverse North America? If they came via the Atlantic, how did they traverse Europe, the Mediterranean, or Africa?

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  • blackbrook@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They were carried by knights who didn’t have horses.

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  • nBodyProblem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    The Panama Canal, obviously

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• errer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  500 years seems quite short if it happened naturally

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• someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  “Where’s the fucking soil.”

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• ID411@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  What a lazy trope.

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• rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  No one considers the coconut anymore 😔

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