and carried by swallows ofc
Coconuts 🥥
Submitted 11 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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jellyhuemul@feddit.cl 11 months ago
Devdogg@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
African or European swallows?
Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t know. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagg!
marcos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Polynesian swallows, obviously.
NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 11 months ago
Like catnip for nerds
modifier@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I sensed the joke from a few instances over.
HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 11 months ago
Or gorillas with coconut-based weaponry that fires in spurts
Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
According to wikipedia this is the less likely and imo less interesting explanation. They did find coconuts that are genetically distinct from the ones the Spanish brought over from the Philippines, but those ones are more distantly related to the ones in polynesia so they probably didn’t float over. Instead they are more likely evidence of pre-columbian contact of Polynesians with south and central America, along with sweet potatoes originating in South America but being present in polynesia and SEA prior to columbus.
So this would boot Columbus off the podium in people who discovered America.
- Bering strait people
- Polynesian people
- Vikings, Leif Erickson
- Columbus
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I personally like the “literally everyone else got their first” theory as a joke that suggests that Mansa Musa’s predecessor and the Ming Dynasty treasure fleets also happened to get there, granted with Mansa Musa’s predecessor making a one way trip and with the treasure fleets not actually having realized they’d hit a distinct landmass.
venoft@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Reading about rue treasure fleet is wild:
The Chinese expeditionary fleet was heavily militarized and carried great amounts of treasures, which served to project Chinese power and wealth to the known world. They brought back many foreign ambassadors whose kings and rulers were willing to declare themselves tributaries of China. During the course of the voyages, they destroyed Chen Zuyi’s pirate fleet at Palembang, captured the Sinhalese Kotte kingdom of King Alakeshvara, and defeated the forces of the Semudera pretender Sekandar in northern Sumatra.
No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 11 months ago
Your point is valid, but less funny and will therefore be ignored
(Thank you for fact checking)
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
If I remember correctly, the Polynesians went there from South America, not the other way around.
Taniwha420@lemmy.world 11 months ago
IRC the genetics don’t support that. It looks more like Polynesians originate from the area around Taiwan, sharing DNA with the indigenous Taiwanese. Again IRC there are some South American genes present in the Easter Island or Tahiti area, which seem to have been introduced pre-European contact. It’s tricky to tell though because there has been so much sharing of genetics since then. It looks like maybe some Polynesians went to South America one or a few times and returned.
marcos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Is there a consensus already over the relative position of #1 and #2 of your list?
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Coconuts were introduced to the Caribbean region by humans. They didn’t just float there.
0ops@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Great, now I don’t know what to believe
black_mouflon@beehaw.org 11 months ago
They were actually carried by birds. See this documentary. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_9kDO3q0w&t=44 /s
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You always believe the latest thing presented to you, no matter how ridiculous. It was obviously the very same time travelers who masquerade as pyramid building aliens, whom are also responsible for Winnipeg, the Harlem shake, and the noble platypus. Getting all willy nilly with the coconuts, fuckin degens.
macrocephalic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Just on statistics, it seems unlikely that in the period of time that coconuts have been floating around that they would only have made it there about the same time as explorers. Surely if they could make it there floating then they would have much earlier.
AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is nonsense. Coconuts were spread by humans.
Such an origin indicates that the coconuts were not introduced naturally, such as by sea currents. The researchers concluded that it was brought by early Austronesian sailors to the Americas from at least 2,250 BP, and may be proof of pre-Columbian contact between Austronesian cultures and South American cultures.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Git outta here wit yer wet blanket of historical accuracy! 😛
Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 11 months ago
if they floated over then they’re definitely way older than 500 years.
prob just 500 years because that’s when mayo sources go back
doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Yeah. It’s pretty hard to believe they just “floated” over considering sweet potatos mde it to the Philippines from south America. Clearly those didn’t float over. Someone else posted a scientific article providing evidence that humans brought the coconut to the Americas
NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?”
essell@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How many coconuts sacrificed their lives to achieve colonising the new lands?
Its a level of reproductive attrition rivalling a teenage boy’s bedroom sock
halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If they came from Asia to the Caribbean via the Pacific, how did they traverse North America? If they came via the Atlantic, how did they traverse Europe, the Mediterranean, or Africa?
blackbrook@mander.xyz 11 months ago
They were carried by knights who didn’t have horses.
nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The Panama Canal, obviously
errer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
500 years seems quite short if it happened naturally
someguy3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Where’s the fucking soil.”
ID411@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
What a lazy trope.
rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No one considers the coconut anymore 😔
outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 months ago
Straight into my piña colada
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Doesn’t it get old that you’re always getting caught in the rain when drinking those?
Pantrygheist@programming.dev 11 months ago
Oh no, maybe they were carried by a bird?
Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Suppose they grasped it by the husk?
tiotok@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Came here for this reply.