ITT: Tankies not realising they are in a shitposting community.
Yes
Submitted 8 months ago by MoonJellyfish@lemmy.today to [deleted]
https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/5a0b2866-adf1-4fa3-ad56-ee2230fd0de3.jpeg
Comments
Delphia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
hark@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s just a shitpost, bro, don’t think about it, let me just make a shitpost covering a political topic, I’m not making a statement just a shitpost, bro.
eskimofry@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If it’s a shitpost why do you defend it so much?
Wofls@feddit.de 8 months ago
I’m in this picture and I don’t like it
Neato@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
The idea that the USSR and East Germany were anywhere close to communism is a joke. There were so many offshoots of communism that were just autocracies where the state owned all property that its meaning is pointless now. It’s better to describe then as dictatorships.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 8 months ago
As much as I agree with your communism comment the same can be said to our democracy. We are a representative democracy and choose people to choose for us.
Wofls@feddit.de 8 months ago
Agreed. Most if not all democracies today are severely flawed. I’d also argue that the wall depicted here has more to do with these flaws than with democracy
Neato@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
Only for the presidential election. All the rest are normal. We’re definitely a representative democracy. Whereas none of the communist countries are anywhere close to Marxist communism.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
economically unsuccessful country vs economically successful country
Sarmyth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I feel like the poster didn’t mean to infer American capitalism is so great we need a wall to slow people down from entering while communism is so shitty they need a wall to prevent people from escaping.
It’s a strangely pro American capitalism meme for lemmy.
realitista@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The tankies are asleep, post anti communist memes!
lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
The community is on lemmy.world so the tankie instances are blocked
ICastFist@programming.dev 8 months ago
There’s also the walls around most Palestinian settlements, the wall that the Dominican Republic is building to stop Haitians from fleeing their country, the walls (fences with barbed wire) in Hungary…
SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Yeah. My country used to be a capitalist dictatorship in the 60s-80s and it very, very much kept people who disliked it from escaping it, and then tortured them for being “unpatriotic”. And as ICastFist mentioned, there are several other capitalist and even “democratic” countries out there that very much build walls to keep people from leaving, too.
I initially assumed this meme was criticizing capitalism due to pointing out how the rich plunder and oppress the poor (i.e. the US with Latin America, and Europe with Africa and the Middle East), then hoard the profits for themselves while propping up walls to prevent anyone from the places they exploited from getting to also share and experience their wealth and safety nets (i.e. America’s border wall with Mexico, and Europe sinking refugee boats while fanning fascism to pin economic issues on the migrants rather than the capitalists themselves), but reading the OP’s replies it seems the meme was actually made in defense of capitalism…?
Honestly, between this and the “you’d be morally obligated to vote for 99% Hitler” nonsense, neoliberals seem to be really, really bad at defending their own ideology, lol
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I wish we had a world where people could cross borders as easily as money does
MissJinx@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hear me out, Exchange citzenchip program. You can come live here if someone from this country wants to go live there. Then you exchange citzenchips. The population would remain the same and people could live in places they feel better at.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ML can choke on my dick. Fuck autocrats. Your vanguard party are just the next oppressors
TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In my opinion, oppression is coming whether we like it or not. The resource depletion and overconsumption of global capitalism is destroying our ecosystems. We can choose degrowth and a planned economy under socialism, or continued environmental damage under fascism. Our current way of living is unsustainable. We need to read up and understand the choices, or the decisions for our futures will be made for us.
andrewth09@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Communism is when Mexico.
lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Mexico didn’t build a wall. The Eastern Block did in the cold war. Think the Berlin Wall
andrewth09@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Both the US and Mexico are capitalist democracies. The meme implies that Capitalists built a wall to keep Communists out.
It’s an awkward meme that doesn’t make much sense.
MoonJellyfish@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Mexico has lower democracy index, so the point still holds. People trying to move from less democratic country to more democratic one.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 8 months ago
As refreshing as it is to hear ML keyboards cracking, this is not a meme, nor a shitpost and even being a meme, there is a community for that
Grayox@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I am a stauch Marxists and have to say even though this was instantly downvoted by me, I will defend it as being a meme.
bardmoss@linux.community 8 months ago
Not the best description I have seen. Any wall that can keep someone out can keep someone in. Just have to change the system inside. The big problem, however, is that nobody understands the term communism and applies it to lots of things which are not. A totalitarian state is not communism. And a Christian nationalist state is no longer a democracy.
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
The big problem, however, is that nobody understands the term communism and applies it to lots of things which are not
I think it’s because terms used in real life often don’t match their definition. The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is not democratic or a republic. The National Socialist Party were not socialist. The Chinese Communist Party allows billionaires to privately own the means of production. Capitalist America regulates, subsidizes, and bails out corporations instead of allowing a free market.
The real world is more nuanced than the terms used to describe it. It doesn’t help that terms like capitalism, communism, democracy, etc, have gone the way of “literally”. It can mean “literally” or it can mean the exact opposite of “literally”; it depends on context.
Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Tell me you don’t know anything about communism without telling me you don’t know anything about communism speedrun any%
lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
All nation states suck!
#nobordersnonationsASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 8 months ago
the book was great, though.
(Nationstates by Max Barry)
lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I found a game with that name and books with other names
Entropy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I’ll take gross reductionisn for 500 Alex
bruhduh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Communist democracy:
humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Communism: 2MHz processors
Democracy: 4GHz multicore multithread processors
retrolasered@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Tetris
humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Soviet union: Tetris
Human rights: The legend of Zelda: breath of the wild
joyjoy@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It’s economically beneficial to live next to a communist country. They’ll build the wall for you.
Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
until it collapses because the wall was too expensive
joyjoy@lemm.ee 8 months ago
So the same as contracting to the lowest bidder.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Beetwen?
Beetnao.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The direction of flow does not mitigate the inhumanity or blunt stupidity of the act.
TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
they are the same pictures, no differences, and the titles are wrongs ofc.
sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
What is this even supposed to mean
Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
communists build walls to keep their people in, and democracies built walls to prevent people from coming in
Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Communism is a type of government and can be democratic. The better comparison would be dictatorships and democracies. Or capitalism and communism.
It’s a dumb meme regardless, tho.
sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yeah but what is it trying to say? Is it just saying democracy is good because other people want to be a part of it? Why is it even comparing communism and democracy? Why is it using such a terrible example for communism? Why does it think that this observation is useful for making any kind of point even if it were accurate?
Wofls@feddit.de 8 months ago
Ah yes, capitalism and democracy, directly comparable and not at all describing totally different things
MoonJellyfish@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Good thing that under the words communism and democracy, there are pictures that give you the context. Which allows you to understand that the actual comparison is between Marxism-Leninism (which is are the majority of communist states) and representative democratic constitutional republic (which are the majority of democracies).
Those two things don’t get along very well.
Wofls@feddit.de 8 months ago
Okay, quick question: In your meme, would you say the picture description on the left is something advocating for democracy? (Although democracy in of itself has basically nothing to do with that wall imo)