Woah. I didn’t realize WoW was still this popular.
Because the MMORPG market is mostly dead with rare exceptions and the rest is free2play pay2win gatcha skin fest fomo garbage.
I’m not surprised at all.
World of Warcraft Subscription Numbers Are Higher Now Than at Expansion Launch in a Franchise First
Submitted 8 months ago by jeze64@midwest.social to games@lemmy.world
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SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I thought Black Desert and GW2 were doing okay. I know two people who play one of each respectively.
Silinde@lemmy.world 8 months ago
As someone who’s played a lot of GW2 over the past couple of years, I can confirm that it’s still fantastic. It doesn’t get anywhere near the amount of content that WoW gets, but it’s on a good cadance these days and outside of buying expansions, is absolutely playable without spending a penny.
StraySojourner@lemmy.world 8 months ago
FF14 has another expac coming out soon, so that’s gonna blow up. ESO was doing pretty well last I checked, too.
WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean even in the past when WoW didn’t have much competition this never really happened before. It would always go down over the expansion then spike up again with a new expansion. While this is definitely in part due to the fact that WoW has multiple versions now and new ones of those have been coming out helping this is definitely still a good sign that what they’ve been doing recently has been working to keep players around.
alianne@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s definitely still chugging along, although I will point out that the sub numbers now include not only modern WoW players but also Classic players. If the 7 million number is accurate, that’s 7 million across all WoW versions, not just modern WoW.
Drusas@kbin.social 8 months ago
I have a number of friends and former guildies who went back to play the classic game. I can't say that I wasn't a little tempted because I loved it back then, but I really wish that they would just stop beating this dead horse.
meco03211@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I joined back up for TBC classic. WotLK was my fucking jam so I wanted to prep a little bit. I chose the wrong server. So I was on a server of thousands that could barely manage double digit concurrent horde population. Obviously this is not tenable. Talk of realm transfers and multiple low population servers kept me hanging around a bit. Then came two incompetent decisions. They opened up free realm transfers from low pop servers. Unfortunately mine was only low horde. Overall it was classified as medium pop and therefore not included. Then they revealed once WotLK dropped they would not implement dungeon finder (saying nothing of cross realm dungeon finder). Within days I’d canceled my account. I now have a few 80s on a private server that scratches every itch I need. I haven’t given the private server a dime. I need to give them a little money for their effort.
Fuck blizzard.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 8 months ago
TIL: People still play WOW
avater@lemmy.world 8 months ago
still the king of mmos
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’m happy, I finished the burning crusade story and got out. No more blizzard from me, probably ever.
Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 months ago
WotLK was pretty great. Cataclysm was okay, the beginning of the end IMO.
Squirrel@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
I know I’m in the minority, but I absolutely loved MoP.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I haven’t played in years. Hopped on again when they brought wow classic in just to try it bcz I started around the time of the cataclysm expansion. But once they banned that Hong Kong player from a tournament back in 2019 over the protest crap, I haven’t been back.
I can’t believe the game is still going. The expansions just got worse as time went on. How they’re still churning oit content people want to play is beyond me.
Ashtear@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Even the original EverQuest is still churning out expansion after expansion. The game’s going to keep going until they turn the lights off.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean, I guess if people are still playing, why would you stop, even if the content quality isn’t that great.
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Everyone knows Ultima Online is the real MMORPGOAT
anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Everquest checking in!
samus12345@lemmy.world 8 months ago
sow plz
Maalus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Where were you when British got kill
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
What any good citizen do and call “Guards! Hi vendor buy bank recdu recsu”
Ashtear@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I think this says just as much about the relatively poor release sales of Dragonflight as it does their successes with retention and attracting former (and possibly new) players.
Dragonflight’s generally positive word-of-mouth and what they’ve done with Classic has also contributed, I’m sure.
Sabata11792@kbin.social 8 months ago
I picked it up for a little bit during Dragonflight. Mechanically, playing your character is the best its been in years as they got rid of a lot of the restrictive and boring spec building. Everything else is an passable meh.
The community is 1 dungeon or raid wipe from more being toxic than a League match making all endgame content not fun. Feels like they started going in the right direction, but I had this hope crushed too many times.
Ashtear@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Yeah, I didn’t comment on the quality of the expansion itself because I’m actually the lowest on the game I’ve been in years. I’m in full tourist mode and have been since Legion. I’ll come in for a month or two for expansion launch (three for Legion, I really liked that one), and then again in the last patch for one more month, and that’s it. Now that I’ve been playing different games over the past few years, WoW is really starting to show its age and I’m less willing to let its flaws slide, such as the extremely toxic community you mentioned. There’s global community called WoW Made Easy that started up at Dragonflight launch with a mission statement of being patient in pick-up groups. Considering how massive it got, clearly the playerbase is fed up with the traditional PUG experience.
What’s really soured me on the game is Blizzard’s continuing divestment in customer service. Toxicity itself is a customer service problem and it takes actualy eyeballs to fix it. And they aren’t hiring. Just as bad is their newest approach to overcrowding, especially on Classic. Last I checked, their solution to crowded servers is “nothing we can do about it, it’ll sort itself out when enough of you give up. no refunds btw.”
I’m going to need some convincing to pickup The War Within.
djsoren19@yiffit.net 8 months ago
There seems to have been a major righting of the ship with Dragonflight. The live retail game is in a very strong place right now, and players are now actually anticipating an upcoming expansion rather than dreading it. Season of Discovery was also an especially inspired idea, injecting a lot of new life into vanilla. Assuming there isn’t too large a shake-up with the team after the Microsoft acquisition, this might be a new golden era for World of Warcraft.
VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 8 months ago
First time I played WoW I liked that you were given a guided tour of your races homeland as it explained the world. The last time I played WoW I had to to a tutorial island that explained nothing about the world and then dumped me in an expansion with characters I had no fucking idea who they were and why I should care about them. Even ESO doesn’t prevent new players from playing the base storyline and FFXIV still requires you to complete ARR before moving to the first expansion. I dropped WoW pretty quickly again because I felt too lost.
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Correction: final fantasy xiv requires you to play ALL of the story to get to the rest of the playerbase, which is, and I’m not exaggerating, probably 700 hours
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Oh yeah it’s a slog, the great divider that everyone has to overcome. They need to do another pass on reducing the amount of stuff and one of the problems is that buried in the trivial ARR stuff is some important information for later. It’s sadly in a state of “just wait, it gets good after the first season”.
VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I know. It’s the only MMO I stay actively subscribed too. I pre-ordered endwalker digital collectors edition and will be doing the same for dawntrail. It’s one of my favorite games.
asmoranomar@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You are exaggerating. You can complete the entire MSQ up to SHB in less than 3 days in-game playtime. Source: You can find raiders with alts that have sprout icons, and I’ve done it myself twice.
But I get it, you need to know exactly what to do and skip cutscenes. You also can’t do any side questing and once you leave an area, never look back. Which most would rightly criticize me for suggesting. The story is good.
Honestly, if the concern is anything other than the story, it’s probably not the game for you anyways.
I’d also like to point out that most content is built to be relevant, so you’ll be doing content with the rest of the player base in just a few hours of playtime. We have the opposite queue problem in contrast to other games: You aren’t waiting for other new players to show up to complete content; you are waiting for the servers to fit you into a party that hundreds of other players of various levels want to also do.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
You are exaggerating, I played it all and it took somewhere between 200 and 300 hours (including side content and most raids at least once).
lorty@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
It’s not a game for people that care about story or even the setting past the visuals and superficial vibes.
Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I started playing recently ish having never played WoW before, and good god the intro feels practically designed to drive new players away. The tutorial was so tedious and boring and taught me so little about how to actually play that I’m still not even entirely sure what I’m really supposed to do or how to even begin to understand the story/timeline. The game as a whole just feels so needlessly difficult and obtuse, I’ve ended up really just logging on every once in awhile for events to grab any cute pets or whatever mounts the game will graciously allow me to get without buying a sub
Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wait, they just give you mounts now? You used to have to wait until level 20 to buy a mount. Level 20 took forever, and then you could only buy the slow mount for your race. You didn’t get a fast mount until level 40, which took a very long time. Then you had to grind reputation for different factions to buy their expensive mounts. Some rare mounts could be found through seasonal events or in raids. I ran Tempest Keep every week for 2.5 years before I finally got Ashes of Al’ar to drop for me.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You seem to be knowledgeable about FF so I ask, is it a good time to start playing? I feel like there’s a lot to get through before I can get current in time for the new expansion. Is there something I can boost like in wow to get current. Without that then while I can afford it, it still feels bad to pay a sub for old content ya know.
VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No. No way to skip the story as far as I’m aware and it’d be a bad idea honestly as the story continues right from ARR to all the expansions, endwalker has a lot of callbacks to everything before it as it’s a swansong of something like 8 years. Dawntrail is the first new major story arc since FFXIV’s release. Leveling isn’t so bad currently because it’s boosted to get as many people to 90 as much as possible but there’s no max level item either as far as I’m aware as you pick a class then that class becomes a specialisation so you’re constantly getting new abilities to learn for your rotation. It would defeat the point of learning your specialisation if you skipped the leveling and quests of it to max level and had everything unlocked.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Same for me, I wanted to introduce someone into WoW during COVID and for nostalgia reasons only to see that they took away the adventure and exploration and transformed it into a soulless husk and I dropped it immediately.