I’ll agree this should be an unpopular opinion. When they deny the rights of others, they forfeit their own.
Society is generally based on social contracts regarding human decency, respect and what apparently are more extreme ideas like compassion and empathy. It’s an agreement to be a part of a community, not to exploit it for selfish gain. If they want to do that, at the very least they should be exiled and allowed only care about themselves by themselves.
We need to stop tolerating intolerance. If you’re harmful to our species letalone our planet that we share with so many others, part present and future, ostracize or eradicate. This high road shit has gotten use nowhere in the entirety of our planets history but right here where monsters are allowed and encouraged to reign.
I’ll also agree to step up to the chopping block if it means I take some of these assholes to hell hand in hand with me.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Nazis do have human rights. Including the right to be punished for their actions. Just like everyone else.
But if the governments don’t punish them for their actions then don’t be surprised if people take matters into their own hands. Which again, what happened to any group of people that were perceived as having too much power and being given too much leeway by the government, regardless of political beliefs.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Read some of the other comments here, happily wanting to take nazis human rights
edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
By virtue of being nazis they have forfeited the protections of the social contract. I don’t give a fuck about the dehumanization or human rights angle, when a thing exists for the sole purpose of destroying society (like nazism and any supremacism) you remove it by any means necessary from society. You do not allow it to continue because if you do, it will destroy you. Fascism is an existential threat and killing fascists is always self defense.
TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They gave those up within their ideology
I’ll kill a charging polar bear too even though I love animals
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I find it amazing that you’re seriously advising people to fight the foot soldiers to no end instead of, you know, the handful of people in that “government” who are responsible for enabling them. The people with the wealth, influence, and technology to rig elections, make enemies and evidence disappear, controvert the law with impunity, and psychologically manipulate the masses.
But yeah fuck it, let’s just stay mad at Bubba on Facebook with a room temp IQ.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
You see the problem here is you’ve decided what I’m arguing and suggesting people do, rather than actually reading my comment. I don’t think I’ve ever stated anywhere that you can’t apply any of what I’ve said to politicians rich CEOs and anybody else who’s at it.
But there is a very important distinction to be made between the people who are actually hurting people and the people who are using because the people who are using them won’t do anything on their own they need their foot soldiers as you call them. Diminish their footstep holders and you diminish their power too it’s all one thing.
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Again, hilarious. You’ve talked yourself out of correctness and into victim blaming. Congratulations, you’re no better than them for the good of all mankind. Toodles.
tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
A right is something you can claim for yourself. “Being punished for your actions” is not a right. I’d even argue that, from a political/social standpoint, punishment shouldn’t be the goal: at a minimum, we should seek to reeducate, and if that fails, isolation is the way to go.
That being said, at the individual level, I wholeheartedly condone the punching of nazis.
mech@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I’m not surprised. But I don’t condone or celebrate it either.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
The right have it so easy. They are all united together as one group of racist assholes.
The left after deal with a bunch of fence sitters that never want to do anything, who generally just hope that the situation magically results itself on its own. Any suggestion by anyone that maybe it would be a good idea to perhaps do something, is always meant with pushback.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The death of a Nazi is always a cause for celebration
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yes, but a Nazi may “die” through ceasing to hold to Nazi ideals, and striving to better themselves. Many strong fighters for good causes began that fight on the wrong side. I can’t imagine how much worse the world would be if, historically, such people had been killed out of hand as you suggest would be right.