Why Orkz is best. True meritocracy
Goes right over some people's heads, I tell ya
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Godric@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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sirico@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Riverview_Legal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Blue orcs are lucky an’ don’t require meritocracy ta become a warboss.
sirico@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Sneeky squid thinkin dat
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
Supposedly, the God Emperor was always around and just hands off of human affairs until they Apocalypsed earth, then he took charge to save the species.
It’s possible that he probably came about before and then caused the Apocalypse, like some sort of psyker mutant test tube baby Oligarch.
History written by the victors and all that.
Godric@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Die, heretic.
BLAM
28RipeBananas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well yeah, he was running around north Norwich with his found family for a while fighting vampires and other supernatural baddies
Riverview_Legal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Yes, Inquisitor. This one right here is sprouting heresy. Something about the Imperium of Man will be the downfall of mankind.
the_fuckler@nord.pub 2 weeks ago
There’s a cartoon about it now that was showing up on reddit that does exactly this
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sounds like heresy. I’m calling an inquisition!
yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Let noob ask a question please, but ain’t Warhammer lore a parody for war and nationalistic shit, even thru “purge xenos” yells?
I’ve actually never played actual tabletop, but some video games… I know memes only.
Riverview_Legal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
In the early years Warhammer 40k was satire on conservatives, Marget Thatcher,
We can add to that Priestley’s lived experience in mid 20th century Britain; the long-tail of the Second World War and the end of British Empire; the ongoing civil discontent of the '70s and '80s between trade unions and the government; the UK’s ongoing military operations in Northern Ireland; state sanctioned support for the South African Apartheid government; and the Falklands war. All fed into an early 40k corpus that was politically charged and anti-authoritarian.
Even so, the game’s general message was typical of most punk pop culture of the period: authorities are oppressive, corrupt, and bureaucratic; advanced warfare is still barbaric; systems of oppression inevitably create the rebellions that they use to justify themselves; and so on.
www.wargamer.com/warhammer-40k/satire
From the very beginning, Warhammer 40,000 wasn’t a straight military setting. It was a joke; a loud, gaudy, aggressively unsubtle joke told by people who were deeply suspicious of power and perfectly willing to mock it. The early writers weren’t trying to smuggle politics into a neutral universe; they were holding up a funhouse mirror to the authoritarian impulses of the late twentieth century and exaggerating them until they became grotesque. The Imperium wasn’t designed to be admired. It was designed to be too much; too cruel, too bureaucratic, too pious, too militarised. A warning dressed up as a wargame.
The satire was everywhere. The Imperium’s bureaucracy was so swollen it became a character in its own right, a kind of cosmic Civil Service (perhaps a DMV for our American cousins?) with skulls glued to it. The Inquisition was a parody of purity culture, a machine that valued suspicion over truth and zeal over competence. Space Marines were propaganda posters made flesh, the state’s ideal soldier stripped of humanity and sold back to the public as salvation. Even the tagline: “In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war”. This wasn’t a mission statement. It was a punchline. A bleak little wink that said: this is what happens when a society builds itself entirely around fear and obedience.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Rogue Trader which it was based on was a parody yes had a lot of references to politicians or political doctrine at the time. It evolved over the editions as it gained popularity, especially outside the UK. The parody now is much darker in tone, less comedic or silly. The problem is they started to realize how cool the setting was as they developed it and took out even more of that satirical bite. There’s some satire still but it’s not as on the nose now.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not too familiar either, but didn’t it rise to popularity shortly after decolonization?
terranoid@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Ork brain
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Aren’t you pro Democratic Party, lol?
Godric@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
?
grillgamesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
its a .ml user.
you can safely ignore. xD
the_fuckler@nord.pub 2 weeks ago
This person went off their meds and is just running around spamming little gotchas to unusual places.
mika_mika@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This person saw the word fascist and immediately thought of the Democrat Party.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The worst exemple you could choose is wharamer 40k. Like the fucking universe where humanity has to fight to survive. And fight more horrible things than even exist in ours.
Egonallanon@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Nah the entire point of the 40k is a satire of fascism and all the horrors it brings. Humanity is fighting to survive because everyone else in the universe quite rightly hates them for their 10,000 year campaign of conquest and genocide. Even the more horrible things than humanity like chaos are heavily bolstered and fed by the actions of the imperium. Every problem humanity faces in the 40k universe(except the orks I guess) is of their own doing.
Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not with buddy. More here to talk about the lore of W.H.
Didn’t humanity try to be peaceful at first, but then the other species used our kindness as a way to take advantage of us?
Again, I’m not getting into the political side of it, just the lore.
bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
yeah except the ork, the insect that just wanna propage indefinetly like a cancer and the warp ppl that are just under control of an entity that want the end of mankind. who the fuck in that universe is like your war was really mean we gonna make a never ending war in revenge ?
how the fuck u saw 40k and think fsatire of facism ???
snooggums@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
40k is a story of humanity colonizing the stars, committing genocide, and then acting like a victim because aliens fought back and their oppressive genetic overlords turned on each other.
The obvious satire clearly went over your head.
ddplf@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
no no look here. bitch. point is. WAR. IS. FREAKIN! COOOL!!!
bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“aliens fought back” bro do u hear yourself ? u think we gonna sit with them and have peace talk ? the point of the setting is a never ending war and humanity is at war with force that dont negotiate
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Bruh, 40K literally started as a satire of fascism during the punk movement. From medium:
The farther we go forward in time, the more Umberto Eco’s seminal essay on the definition of fascism (“Ur-Fascism”, 1995) applies. Read these (very abridged) qualifiers and think about what you know about 40k, space marines, and the Imperium of Man.
- Cult of Tradition/Traditionalism
- Rejection of Modernism
- Cult of Action for Action’s Sake
- Disagreement is treason.
- Racist by definition/diversity is bad.
- Derives power from individual or social frustration.
- Nationalism/Tribalism/”Appeals to people who feel deprived of a clear social identity”
- Followers feel humiliated.
- Life is lived for struggle/life is permanent…
Think about every line you know from 40k, and everything that ever happens in this setting. It’s incredibly fascist coded and the fault of the fascists for being in their situation.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 weeks ago
TBF the videogames have been a little lighter on the irony than the original.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Edit for all the moron than think politics are an integral part of wharamer juste replace wharamer with full metal jacket and how it was meant to show war ks horrible and the audience got the message thebmilitarybis cool.
I always love the irony of someone being called stupid in a borderline illiterate response.
Especially when you’re completely uninformed about the history of “wharamer”
HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Wha-ramer could be an ork contraption
vinyl@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel like it better suits if the text positions were swapped.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
I imagine that, if you’re a 10-year-old boy, fascism can look pretty awesome. Lots of action, badass uniforms and weapons, skulls and stuff, and no icky girls bringing their cooties into your top-sekrit treehouse.
OldSageRick@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
No Girls AAAAALLOWEEEED
also remember, be positive
grillgamesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
PRAISE BE TO SPACE KING!
Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Also, Hatemonger is gay.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
*Except for the Adeptus Soroitas, who are the most badass group in the imperium.
95% as good as ‘spess meh-rines’ but they’re not genetically modified supersoldiers more akin to another species - they’re just incredibly dedicated women.
brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It is a pretty cool setting.