I’m old enough that when I was in school, teachers were telling us that we’d never have calculators in our pockets wherever we’d go.
A good deal of IT work, too
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SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m that old, too. Can you imagine a student back then saying, “I’ll have a calculator, flashlight, camera, video recorder, music collection, and games to pass the times I have to wait on others.”
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Oh yeah and it’s also a phone”
Steve@startrek.website 11 months ago
Thats a stupid statement in any year after the “pocket calculator” was available in the 70s
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not really. The first ones were quite expensive, and it was uncommon to have one on your person at all times like we now do with smartphones.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s even more stupid when it’s the same class that required the purchase of a TI-85 to complete the course.
VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m only 27 and I was lucky enough to hear that one, no Wikipedia and no Google.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wikipedia was started in 2001, and Google in 1998. Who was saying this to you when you were 2?
tooclose104@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
This wasn’t all that long ago though. I’m only in my 30’s and was told this in elementary school in the 90’s and early 2000’s. The iPhone was first released only 16 years ago.
if_only@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Googling does become a hell of a lot easier if you know what the concept you’re looking for is called.
MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I find myself going to ChatGPT for this stuff now.
“I’m trying to do something like [concept]. What is that called and can you give me an example”
Usually I get my results faster and easier than Google.
hswolf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
be careful using it as your only source of truth, even more so when you don’t know what you’re searching for exactly
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I had an emailed a question that I didn’t really know where to go with, so I asked Copilot to answer the email factually. Sent that email with a note of ai origin, but it was close enough and got us into right track
shiroininja@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I literally made money on a contract this year doing something I’d never even done. Thank you google. Love it
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You never did it, but still made money for claiming that you had?
name_NULL111653@pawb.social 11 months ago
I’d : contraction I + had, past participle active. Indicative of something having been done by the subject (in first person) in the past.
"I did something I had never done (before / in the past).
BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Must be a government contract
aard@kyu.de 11 months ago
In IT contracting (at least the fields I’m around) it’s quite common that “being able to acquire new skills quickly” is one of the skills you get paid for, and the time needed for you to do that is accounted for in the project planning.
popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
“There is no point in reinventing the wheel” is my favorite saying when it comes to things like this.
If something has been done over and over again, there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch. It wastes time, money, and effort that could be spent on creating something new.
Humanity’s greatest strength is being able to add to the previous generation’s knowledge base, too!
If we had to relearn how to do the same things in the same way, in every generation, we would still be in the stone age…
When I manage folks, I expect them to steal if its already been done and especially if it’s been done to death.
NegativeInf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If I relied on my college CS textbooks as reference for anything I code now, not only would it have been outdated 2 years after purchase, but it’s been ten damn years now. Only actual reference books I have are for theory. And even then it’s probably not the best source anymore.
Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch.
Learning. The point is to learn.
You don’t have to learn everything that way, but you understand things a lot better when you’ve built them from scratch, and that underlying foundation enhances the entire knowledge stack.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As someone who worked in tech support and a sys admin role, yes, and thank you. I would say 90% of all issues and problems I had were either solved or pointed in the right direction since 2006, the year I started.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ll do you one better. I’ve learned that in the absence of online information for a bug or fault, that I’m most likely attempting something that is better solved another way. Like, nobody does it like the harebrained thing I just invented, so it’s just me and everyone else with a (different) working solution.
dan1101@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Googling problems certainly helps but you still need enough knowledge to define the problem, Google it, and implement the solution.
iamericandre@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s a big part people don’t understand is you need to know enough about your problem to google the correct terms and find what you need. Googling itself is a learned skill.
xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Just don’t google google. No laughing matter. You could break the internet.
madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I did that twice today by accident. I’m sorry 🥹
danque@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That explains why it was so slow.
Sorgan71@lemmy.world 11 months ago
teachers dont say that
CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“When will you ever walk around with a calculator in your pockets!?”
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 months ago
My teacher dead ass said that to me when I was 9 and had a Casio wrist watch with a calculator on it.
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Do teachers actually say this these days? Or are you making it up just for the sake of the meme.
BaardFigur@lemmy.world 11 months ago
[deleted]funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
for us oldbies, who went to school before the internet was popular, it used to be “You won’t have a calculator with you everywhere you go!”
linkrulesx10@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As a teacher, no. Now we say don’t trust the Google summary, click a link for more information!
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
That does make sense, I forgot Google summary is a thing.
r00ty@kbin.life 11 months ago
Well, you need the basics of software development to start with. But sure, I'm not going to make my own implementation for every problem I come across. That would be insanity and a colossal waste of time.
However, people googling or using ChatGPT to create code they do not understand themselves, are just cargo cult programming, and it will bite them in the arse/ass (delete as applicable).
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Programmers when GitHub and stackoverflow:
GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Java, apparently 😂
mayonaise_met@feddit.nl 11 months ago
I went to work in IT over half a decade ago without relevant credentials. Google taught me everything.
If only I could log in to the damn system.
faceula@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Only a shit teacher, would say this!
tooclose104@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I use Google at work on a regular basis. It’s taught me a lot about using powershell to get stuff done faster, how to use rox and ios cli more efficiently, and ChatGPT taught me how VTP works because sometimes Google isn’t enough when you’ve no idea what you’re doing in the first place.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Is this the new “you need to know this math because you won’t have a calculator with you everywhere you go?”
NABDad@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It depends on how hard you push the envelope. The closer you get to doing something no one has ever done before, the more likely you are to be in your own.
Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.
xpinchx@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Lol this applies to so many things.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As a pentester I approve this message
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Wise words