A good deal of IT work, too

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• NABDad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It depends on how hard you push the envelope. The closer you get to doing something no one has ever done before, the more likely you are to be in your own.

  Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.

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  • xpinchx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lol this applies to so many things.

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  • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Of course, any time you’re doing something no one has ever done before, it’s prudent to consider whether you should.

    As a pentester I approve this message

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  • isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wise words

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• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m old enough that when I was in school, teachers were telling us that we’d never have calculators in our pockets wherever we’d go.

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  • TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m that old, too. Can you imagine a student back then saying, “I’ll have a calculator, flashlight, camera, video recorder, music collection, and games to pass the times I have to wait on others.”

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Oh yeah and it’s also a phone”

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  • Steve@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thats a stupid statement in any year after the “pocket calculator” was available in the 70s

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not really. The first ones were quite expensive, and it was uncommon to have one on your person at all times like we now do with smartphones.

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s even more stupid when it’s the same class that required the purchase of a TI-85 to complete the course.

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  • VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m only 27 and I was lucky enough to hear that one, no Wikipedia and no Google.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wikipedia was started in 2001, and Google in 1998. Who was saying this to you when you were 2?

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  • tooclose104@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This wasn’t all that long ago though. I’m only in my 30’s and was told this in elementary school in the 90’s and early 2000’s. The iPhone was first released only 16 years ago.

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• if_only@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Googling does become a hell of a lot easier if you know what the concept you’re looking for is called.

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  • MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I find myself going to ChatGPT for this stuff now.

    “I’m trying to do something like [concept]. What is that called and can you give me an example”

    Usually I get my results faster and easier than Google.

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    • hswolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      be careful using it as your only source of truth, even more so when you don’t know what you’re searching for exactly

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    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I had an emailed a question that I didn’t really know where to go with, so I asked Copilot to answer the email factually. Sent that email with a note of ai origin, but it was close enough and got us into right track

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• shiroininja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I literally made money on a contract this year doing something I’d never even done. Thank you google. Love it

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You never did it, but still made money for claiming that you had?

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    • name_NULL111653@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d : contraction I + had, past participle active. Indicative of something having been done by the subject (in first person) in the past.

      "I did something I had never done (before / in the past).

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    • BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Must be a government contract

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    • Steve@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Assume they meant “previously”

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    • aard@kyu.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In IT contracting (at least the fields I’m around) it’s quite common that “being able to acquire new skills quickly” is one of the skills you get paid for, and the time needed for you to do that is accounted for in the project planning.

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• popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “There is no point in reinventing the wheel” is my favorite saying when it comes to things like this.

  If something has been done over and over again, there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch. It wastes time, money, and effort that could be spent on creating something new.

  Humanity’s greatest strength is being able to add to the previous generation’s knowledge base, too!

  If we had to relearn how to do the same things in the same way, in every generation, we would still be in the stone age…

  When I manage folks, I expect them to steal if its already been done and especially if it’s been done to death.

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  • NegativeInf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If I relied on my college CS textbooks as reference for anything I code now, not only would it have been outdated 2 years after purchase, but it’s been ten damn years now. Only actual reference books I have are for theory. And even then it’s probably not the best source anymore.

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  • Rodeo@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch.

    Learning. The point is to learn.

    You don’t have to learn everything that way, but you understand things a lot better when you’ve built them from scratch, and that underlying foundation enhances the entire knowledge stack.

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• HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As someone who worked in tech support and a sys admin role, yes, and thank you. I would say 90% of all issues and problems I had were either solved or pointed in the right direction since 2006, the year I started.

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  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll do you one better. I’ve learned that in the absence of online information for a bug or fault, that I’m most likely attempting something that is better solved another way. Like, nobody does it like the harebrained thing I just invented, so it’s just me and everyone else with a (different) working solution.

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• dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Googling problems certainly helps but you still need enough knowledge to define the problem, Google it, and implement the solution.

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  • iamericandre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s a big part people don’t understand is you need to know enough about your problem to google the correct terms and find what you need. Googling itself is a learned skill.

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• xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just don’t google google. No laughing matter. You could break the internet.

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  • madmaurice@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I did that twice today by accident. I’m sorry 🥹

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    • danque@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That explains why it was so slow.

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• Sorgan71@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  teachers dont say that

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  • CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “When will you ever walk around with a calculator in your pockets!?”

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My teacher dead ass said that to me when I was 9 and had a Casio wrist watch with a calculator on it.

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• SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do teachers actually say this these days? Or are you making it up just for the sake of the meme.

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  • BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      for us oldbies, who went to school before the internet was popular, it used to be “You won’t have a calculator with you everywhere you go!”

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  • linkrulesx10@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As a teacher, no. Now we say don’t trust the Google summary, click a link for more information!

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    • SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That does make sense, I forgot Google summary is a thing.

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• r00ty@kbin.life ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, you need the basics of software development to start with. But sure, I'm not going to make my own implementation for every problem I come across. That would be insanity and a colossal waste of time.

  However, people googling or using ChatGPT to create code they do not understand themselves, are just cargo cult programming, and it will bite them in the arse/ass (delete as applicable).

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Programmers when GitHub and stackoverflow:

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• GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Java, apparently 😂

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• mayonaise_met@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I went to work in IT over half a decade ago without relevant credentials. Google taught me everything.

  If only I could log in to the damn system.

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• faceula@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Only a shit teacher, would say this!

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• tooclose104@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I use Google at work on a regular basis. It’s taught me a lot about using powershell to get stuff done faster, how to use rox and ios cli more efficiently, and ChatGPT taught me how VTP works because sometimes Google isn’t enough when you’ve no idea what you’re doing in the first place.

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• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is this the new “you need to know this math because you won’t have a calculator with you everywhere you go?”

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