Computers can't do everything
Submitted 3 weeks ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
would be nice if ppl who do those decisions would always be held accountable
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I think the computer told me to can never be a viable excuse when determining responsibility for a poor decision.
A manager can assert they were advised by the computer, but in the end, the human being must be held responsible.
Case in point, Iran Air Flight 655
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
btw this is kinda an outdated viewpoint. what is even meant by “management decision”? is it decisions such as “does the train drive forward, or not?” because if that’s what’s meant, then yes, very much can machines make these kind of decisions. that’s the whole point of studying real-time systems. they require that they can handle every possible input data case and respond to it meaningfully within a fixed maximum response time. it has nothing to do with “holding the decision maker accountable”.
FukOui@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
“AI told me to bomb this place’s which just happens to be just a school full of terrorist muslim children. I’m sowwy for this war crime and I promise not to do it again by improving the model. UwU”
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
In that example, it sounds like the train is responsible for driving forward, driving in reverse and stopping.
The train company would want to ensure a human has agreed in writing to be held accountable for foreseeable failures of the train driving system.
Sharing my definitions, more or less, in red:
“Key Differences of Responsibility vs Accountability”
The thing that should be impossible is for the train company to hire the owner’s drunk cousin to build a self driving train system, and when people get hurt and the company is taken to court, the company is allowed to apologize + blame software + do business as usual w/o fine/penalties.
I’m thinking even at the time enough stuff was (successfully, safely) automated that they would’ve agreed.
You want everyone at your company to know that if they get dragged in front of a judge, pointing fingers at silicon will not prove a winning strategy. Hence, a computer must never make a management decision!
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
But people accused me of sticking my dick in the floppy drive
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
A computer also cannot consent.
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Maybe I should delete all those photos with the cover slid off and my hand touching its naughty bits and bytes.
homes@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
Wasn’t this the plot of Ex Machina?
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
A computer is a machine. It cannot deny consent.
FishFace@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
untorquer@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
“Dildo, may I insert you?“
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
This is a great and succinct summary of the core issue of “ai”. Without consciousness there can never be anything that makes art art.
Just Data algorithmically crafting poems about cat facts, if you excuse the trek reference.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good reference, but I feel Data is a poor example.
Data was proved to be both intelligent and self aware, and even though consciousness was inconclusive he was considered sentient.
He was able to create poetry and art, only initially by algorithmic imitation because he didn’t understand it. As he grew as a “person” his artistic pursuits, painting, poetry, music, and literature, defined his character because he himself chased their meaning, not because someone asked him to peruse them.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Definitely good points you are making, but his art has also variously been described as soulless or things to that effect, because he can perfectly play a musical piece or make an almost photorealistic painting, but struggles to go beyond surface concepts (not to mention when he is asked to sculpt music).
Though ultimately i would agree that data is not the best example, because as you said he sometimes gets a taste of what he is lacking, and also, because he has an actual consciousness.
666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think one of the reasons why AI ““art”” appeals to those on the right is that it is “objectively” beautiful and in the future probably “perfect” as well, since they see our entire existance as metrics, data and numbers
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ok but fr Data’s poetry fucks and people were being real shitbirds to him about it.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Can’t argue with that.
sundray@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
A computer can never be horny or sad
I’m sure the AI bros are working on it.
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They just want a user friendly Wang.
Christ I’m old
Marija@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Some problems still need human judgment.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bad judgement makes for good stories
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why not? Emotion is a biochemical reaction. So it can be simulated.
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
* stimulated ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
This is my argument. Eventually, we’ll have computers capable of generating good art that moves its human audience as intended.
And in the meantime, there are artists who utilize generative AI as a tool, who learn to prompt exactly, and then curate the best results from the basilisks, much the way photographers determine what to shoot, and how to manipulate lenses, exposure and lighting in order to get the optimal effect.
Sadly, current LLMs consume a whole lot of resources, way more than the process of human beings doing art. So it’s a long, long road to us getting to where generative AI is actually economic.
Laser@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
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jdr@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
A computer is the best at plagiarism, therefore it is the best at art
iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app 3 weeks ago
Good artists copy, great artists steal?