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We have brownouts in the summer and Kevin O'Leary wants a Data Center built here.
Submitted 1 day ago by BurgerBaron@quokk.au to memes@sopuli.xyz
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MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
As a Canadian, I am so sorry that Kevin O’Leary exists.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Fuck that guy and fuck data centers, but this meme is misinformed.
The biggest problem with our current grid is power distribution, as in getting power from the production source to its destination (your house). We absolutely have production issues, but even if we resolve those, we still need to contend with the distribution bottleneck.
Most, if not all of these datacenter plans and include built in power production. Whether it is Google’s geothermal, meta’s nuclear, or whatver, the power production for the datacenters are meant to be relatively close to the actual.
grandma@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
(Sorry for this vague rant but I had to get it off my chest)
We used to build rails, roads, water/sewage systems, telephone networks and they weren’t all directly profitable. Now it seems any investment in infrastructure is deemed too expensive (unless it’s AI or whatever)
Like why is there not yet wired internet everywhere in the west. It is absolutely ridiculous that some people have to rely on starlink for a decent connection. I understand that it’s not profitable to lay miles of cable just so Bill from Buttfuck Ohio can pay $20 a month to have access to it. That didn’t use to stop us for electricity and water though. Just because some rent seeking motherfucker isn’t raking it in doesn’t mean it’s not valuable to society as a whole.
Just print some money, upgrade the damn power grid and make us less dependent on fossil fuels. It might even help the climate if anyone still gives a fuck about that.
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 day ago
Thats part of the backlash though.
Thepeople, would MUCH prefer the infrastructure get updated for EVs, not just a single pipe for Data Center kickbacks to council members.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 22 hours ago
I’m not disagreeing with the sentiment, just clarifying that the grid, as it stands today, is inadequate for a full electric future. That wasn’t a lie. Clearly it is doable, they just choose not to because it isn’t as profitable.
Kage520@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was actually kind of successful in responding to the “our power grid can’t HANDLE EVs if everyone switched!” With “you’re telling me the power companies don’t want more business, and are unwilling to support it?”
They were not fully satisfied, but they didn’t have a response.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
o leary is the useful distraction from the actual owners of the datacenter in UTAH.
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 day ago
Further proof that no amount of wealth can buy intelligence, taste, class, etc.
Photonic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s a tag team match with the oil companies, carmakers and the AI companies on one side and consumers on the other.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’d put a bit of an asterisk beside the carmarkers. In most cases, they are only pro gas due to demand and cost. For the most part, they are perfectly willing to switch if they know the sales will be there.
Zorque@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I mean there’s supply chain stuff, too. Isn’t that why Toyota dragged it’s feet so long? They were also pushing hydrogen over straight EV, weren’t they?
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 23 hours ago
How many billionaires can the power grid handle?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
At some point I think some people argued the electric chair was more humane than the guillotines. Not sure I believe that.
sunsofold@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
For what it’s worth many data centers include their own power generation. Would be a boon for modular nuclear reactors if they were ready and if the us wasn’t so shy about nuclear. I wonder if other countries are having this issue? Like is there a big pushback to data centers in china, India, UAE, or Singapore? If not then what’s the difference and how are they managing data center development?
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yea, they are reopening shut down gas and coal plants, so it’s even fucking worse
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Man modular nuclear would be so good right now, in some cases we could even drop them into decommissioned gas and coal plants aka use the heat exchanger and turbines. Within reason it would be nice to see them fast tracked for this.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Kevin’s data center is going to run on natural gas generators in a valley which already suffers from horrible inversions every year. The Wasatch front valley has some of the worst air quality in the world during the winter.
Nuclear is too expensive for the capitalists building these. They’d rather pollute than pay more money for nuclear.
BurgerBaron@quokk.au 1 day ago
In this case I’m teferring to the Wonder Valley AI data centre campus, it’s proposed for northwestern Alberta, near Grande Prairie.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Not arguing but just curious. I didn’t think natural gas plants heavily affected air quality. I’m aware that fracking has its share of issues. I always thought coal plants were the ones with emissions issues.
someguy3@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think the small modular reactor concept is overdone. Small doesn’t mean cheap, and cheap is what we want.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The small size isn’t specifically what is intended to make SMRs cheap; it’s the reproducibility. Not every location will be suitable for gigawatt scale reactors, but smaller reactors, made of components you can throw on a rail car, will bring cost down as production scales up. And there would likely be more reactors built, since there’s more flexibility in application.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
Who do these people think the angry mob will target when the electricity gets cut off?
scytale@piefed.zip 23 hours ago
Well you see, they’re using turbines that run on fossil fuels.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Oh wow. A whole new level of fury.