Submitted 11 months ago by GreyTechnician@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
Emulating games is important but I would argue that preserving the games is moreso. If you have discs of old games lying around (I grabbed the original floppy disk version of Marathon by Bungie for less than 5 quid), please find out how to dump them into an ISO or some other archive. It's important now more than ever as games tend towards digital distribution and old games are lost to time. The games don't have to be good, they just need to be preserved.
I’d argue emulating games is more important to the preserve effort. Unless you have some extremely rare one of a kind prototype game (chances are you don’t) most games have already been dumped at the point. What’s important is these dumps continue to get shared. Emulation drives people to find these games and adds one more seeder to the community meaning the more obscure stuff won’t just be dependent on one person keeping the file alive.
I agree for the most part, however, unless someone had dumped the games in the first place, the emulation wouldn't be possible. It's important that people know how to dump their games because they might be sitting on games that haven't been uploaded yet. I mainly use vimm.net to find ROMs and it tells you how complete the collections are and which games are missing.
Most “retro” games have been backed up but the definition of retro shifts all the time. You don’t even need to go that far forward: the PS3 and X360 have a ton of missing stuff - games yes but especially DLCs and update versions.
The pre-online era was “easier” - find each revision of a Donkey Kong Country cart and your job’s done. Now, every game has 12 versions and casual pirates that “just want to play the game” only bother sharing the oldest and newest ones. There’s content locked behind promotions and account bonuses. There’s patches that alter or remove content (or patch important speedrun tech out of games). And the presence of online in otherwise single-player games is always going to be something inherently opposing preservation of the original experience - you’re not going to ever get the same experience playing Wind Waker HD with Tingle bottles that I did because either the feature is dead or it’s been reimplemented through something like Pretendo. And with a reimplementation, the source for the community posts is no longer casual fans taking selfies with bosses but instead comprised exclusively of tech savvy users who bothered to install a fake Miiverse on their hacked Wii U / emulator.
I lost all my Marathon disks but I do still have an original boxed copy of Halo for Mac OS on CD-ROM
Oh man, did you have the entire trilogy? I hope you can find them! CDs are incredibly easy to dump, you just need a disk drive and Linux has easy tools for copying the data into an iso file.
I literally just set up Project64 and SNES9X yesterday lol. Nice timing. I tried Higan, but couldn’t get it to run games and got tired of trying to fix it. 9X works well enough for me to get my nostalgia fix.
SNES all the way, but there were definitely some gems on SEGA and NES that held up over time.
I’ve always preferred genesis overall, but that’s what’s great about emulation, we can have all the great systems and entire room sets on an SD card
I’ve done plenty of SNES and NES emulation, haven’t done much on SEGA yet. Any suggestions for SEGA games that are worth trying?
and don´t forget Neo Geo!
Mupen64 was another decent one. Project64 has always been my #1.
For accurate SNES (and several other) emulation and yet easy to use, Ares is the goto now.
I’ll check it out and get back to you.
I got a steamdeck for my birthday and I’ve only put EmuDeck on it, they are working on a PC version, it’s an all in one package.
RetroArch is super popular and available across many systems, with a bunch of open source frontends for it. I have it on a Raspberry Pi, a Mac, an OG Oculus Quest, playing everything from MAME to PSX.
Son, I’ve been doing it since 1998
So good that even Steve Jobs promoted it in one of his keynotes.
I didn’t realize it at the time but I had Atari 2600 Action Pack 2 for Windows 95, which was one of the earliest console emulators (though you could only play the games included in the pack).
Then 97-99 had this explosion of console and handheld emulation. Nesticle, SNES9X, No$GB. Remember No$ was a big deal because it could emulate the link cable between two instances for getting all the Pokemon across red and blue.
Start it at 11 minutes. Everything before that is just his opinions on why people don’t want to emulate games.
Not saying it’s a waste of time or anything, just if you already know the arguments then it’s unnecessary.
How about I just don’t even click on the article at all, because I’m not going to watch a video that could have been an article.
“Hey guys here’s my video about why you should watch me talk about using emulation to play classic console games, be sure to hit that like button and subscribe to my channel BYAAAEEE!”
People should quit wasting so much bandwidth and storage on useless videos.
So angry. So as you see fit my friend.
Don’t forget to check out rom hacks as well. There are so many creative people who have extended or redeveloped games into their own image. Some good ones that come to mind are Chrono Trigger: Prophet’s Guile and Super Mario 64: Last Impact.
Piracy is a moral imperative. I donate to these projects whenever I can.
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Emulation is not piracy though.
Sometimes you need firmware or blobs that are protected though
Ship of Harkinian is an absolutely brilliant way to play The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. I have it up and running on my Steamdeck and it blows the EmuDeck/RetroArch version out of the water.
Good to see they have an AppImage now. Setting it up on Linux was a hassle when I last played it around a year and a half ago.
Can’t wait for the MM decomp and similar Ship project there. I’ve never played and and I’m holding out on that and all the great modern tweaks it brings over existing emulation.
Woah, thank you for this tip! I haven’t heard about this project.
You can do some really cool stuff with emulation. I’m playing Fire Emblem Echoes Shadows of Valentia (3DS) emulated at 4x native resolution with a HD texture pack at the moment, and it makes that game really enjoyable. 3DS games in general benefit a lot from increased resolution you can do while emulating.
Plus these things like widescreen on games that didn’t have it, cheat codes, 60fps patches, fan translations, increased resolution, mods (Luminescent Platinum is so cool). It’s just such a neat world on top of just playing older games that you can’t purchase legally or conveniently anymore.
Fuck any article that tells you what you SHOULD be doing.
Even worse, it’s a video
I have a Homebrew Wii that I got set up about 10 or so years ago. Homebrew Wii can run lots of stuff. With emulation, it plays any 2D Nintendo game really well. I haven’t tried N64 emulation on it yet, but I imagine it’s pretty good.
Then it has hardware support for the entire GameCube library.
Basically Homebrew Wii can play every Nintendo game up to its own generation.
I emulate a lot on my phone so I have something to do when waiting around while out of the house. Even emulating Windows and DOS to play old PC games that work great with touch controls.
What apps do you use to emulate Windows and DOS on Android? And what games? I guess any point and click game could work fine.
What apps do you use to emulate Windows and DOS on Android?
Wine and Magic DOSBox.
And what games? I guess any point and click game could work fine.
SimCity 2000 and Masters of Orion get the most play for me.
I enjoy Space Crusade under DosBox, it’s a very slow game but suits touchscreen pretty well :-)
Shout out to the PPSSPP folks, I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of FFT WotL and Tactics Ogre on my android tablet.
Just picked up a new FireTV 4k Max because I heard it was the perfect device for emulation, and it is. And fairly cheap. I had been running emulators on an older firestick but the new one has much better OTG support and will recognize USB storage without mounting via Adb. RetroArch and many other standalone emulators are available on the Amazon store so you don’t even need to sideload the apps anymore.
Ive tested up to PS2 and barring a few known titles it’ll run pretty much everything. N64 included.
Amazon have stated they plan to drop Android on their sticks in the future, and switch to their own OS which I doubt will support these kinds of uses, so grab one while you can.
I once spent a 2 week holiday playing an R-Type and Metal Slug game-athon using MAME.
10/10 would emulate again.
Been using Lemuroid recently, as well as Dolphin
What’s the most modern you could emulate on an android phone (s23)?
And is retroarch the best bet?
I’ve been entertaining the idea of buying a cheap laptop to play with Linux after yesterday’s posts and the idea of being able to emulate some more modern stuff and maybe install steam is appealing.
I’ve been deep in the Android emulation rabbit hole for a while.
RetroArch is a great all-in-one solution, but it can be tricky to customize. For example, you can’t move on-screen controls through any sort of interface, but need to edit a configuration file to do so. It also won’t automatically adjust the controls to the game you’re playing - you would need to manually override the configuration to use an SNES overlay for SNES games. That said, the default “retropad” on-screen controls work fairly well for most consoles if you don’t feel like customizing all of them.
RetroArch is going to provide the most accurate emulation cores for basically everything up through the N64/Playstation. Is it the best? If you take a few minutes to learn how to customize it then definitely. In addition to being accurate, it has a great system for video shaders that work across all consoles.
Outside of that Dolphin is solid for GameCube/Wii. Yuzu is available for Switch but only some games will be playable.
Switch
Really?
I would’ve expected 3DS at most
Emulating life counts?
For those who have the cash, FPGA recreations of consoles are superior to emulation, if you’re not interested in enhancement and strive for accuracy
systemglitch@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s most of the reason I got a steam deck. Emulation on the go ftw.
bulwark@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Out of curiosity what is the most modern system you are able to emulate on a steam deck. I’ve dabbled in MAME and PSX before, but is there a decent PS3 one?
sp6@lemmy.world 11 months ago
On the Playstation side, RPCS3 is the PS3 emulator, it’s great. There are some experimental PS4 emulators, but they aren’t ready yet.
On the Xbox side, Xenia works well as an Xbox 360 emulator; it’s not linux native though, but it might work well under wine. I’m not aware of Xbox One (or later) emulators.
On the Nintendo side, I would be surprised if a Nintendo game that couldn’t be emulated exists. Even Switch games run very well on day 1 of release.
shrodes@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Depends a lot on the games and compatibility. As mentioned Switch is definitely emulateable and often runs great but it heavily depends on the title.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
A dude I work with just showed me PS3 emulation on the Steamdeck and it’s LUDICROUSLY good. I was shocked.
spudwart@spudwart.com 11 months ago
I’ve been able to Emulate the Switch and Wii U on the deck. So, the steamdeck can probably do as far as the ps3/Xbox 360 era, maybe ps4 and Xbox one, but that’s a big maybe
p5f20w18k@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I did this for a bit, but then put emudeck on my PC (which has a lot more storage) and now I stream pretty much everything from my PC to my TV or deck
Thousands of roms and a few hundred games pretty much whenever I want. My 10 year old self would never believe this
frezik@midwest.social 11 months ago
I’ve been going through the Turbografx/PC Engine library, particularly shumps. Lots of stuff that gets overlooked from when Nintendo and Sega were dominating.