Submitted 1 year ago by Chadsalot@lemmy.world to [deleted]
Inspired by a question I saw a while back, is it possible to make my data/online presence useless/undesirable to companies to purchase?
Sure. Wiggle your mouse, introduce randomness into your typing, and read about things you’re not interested in. It doesn’t matter though as they’ll still sell your info.
Garbage in, garbage out.
I think we will see tooling for data-poisoning, and it will become a valid counter-measure for maintaining privacy.
No. People are always going to pay for your data even if you make it incorrect.
Yeah this. Google has no interest in determining if your data is real or not. They don’t care. They only care that the customer isn’t aware of the scam.
AdNauseum plugin combined with VPN and private browser mode.
It’s an ad blocker that clicks everything.
I’ve kind of always wanted to use AdNauseum, but since I still depend on my Google account somewhat I’m hesitant to give them reasons to delete me, and I’ve settled for blocking ads and supporting rival services.
Has anyone had their google account banned over this?
Private browser mode in many browsers disables plugins by default, and also doesn’t do anything to stop trackers or data collection. All private mode does is keep your activity private from others who also have access to your device (e.g. family members, roommates), by not saving browser history/cookies/etc.
Firefox can allow plugins in private mode. I only mentioned private mode because it ensures you’re not logged in anywhere.
Is this chaotic neutral or chaotic evil?
I contend that it’s chaotic good.
It’s impossible to make your data completely unattractive to purchase but using something like the adnauseum extension on your browser can make your data less useful when it has been purchased.
This is just my opinion, but I don’t think so. I love the thought and wish there was, though. I think no matter what you do, it’s still information about a potential user/customer and still tells someone looking at it about you. “Oh, we have information on about 4% of the population that wants to actively subvert our data analytics.”. Obviously that’s made up, I didn’t bother trying to even guess what a potentially realistic number might be.
Again, in my opinion, the only way to provide no value to data analytics is to not be a data point, and good luck with that. Best I’ve been trying to do is disable targeted ads anywhere I can, reset my identifier ids regularly on things like android tv where I can, and try to blast cookies anywhere possible. I don’t know if it even makes a difference or just makes me feel better
Its super unpopular on Reddit and even less popular on here but… Have my data, i dont give a fuck.
What are you going to find out? I’m a straight white man approaching middle-age. I’m into DIY, cars that were cool 20 years ago, music that was cool 20 years ago, cooking on my bbq and trying desperately to avoid becoming old AND fat. I’m wearing New Balance runners and cargo shorts RIGHT NOW. I’ve become a complete caricature of a “Dad”.
You think you can find some embarrassing shit with my porn history? Nope, Ill tell you what my jam is for free. I dont care.
I’m already tighter with my money than a dolphins asshole. Put the prices up, I just wont buy it. I’m on a playthrough of a 22yo videogame on a pc I built with second hand parts because fuck paying $130 for a brand new AAA title.
What are “they” going to mine from me?
You’re thinking little picture, your data specifically isn’t worth anything. Your data with everyone else’s data is worth a lot because they can use it to manipulate society. The Cambridge Anyltica scandal was a proof of concept… and you are not impervious to it.
You basically described the other half of me right here. I waffle back and forth between your view and trying to do something about it. I go back to feeling it’s futile and doesn’t matter anyway, before getting fed up with targeted ads again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
I’m already tighter with my money than a dolphins asshole.
Very nicely put :-)
But still an illusion. You are still a true and well adapted consumer, connected to all your pipes in The Matrix.
Saying that you are tight is equal to saying that you feel powerless, because all your money=power is owned by somebody else.
You are actually consuming. You are actually spending your money. You feel like you have no choice, but you have - if you only recognized it.
The thing is what is valuable or not is up to you. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean they don't want it. What's perfectly legal and mundane today can be illegal tomorrow.
Companies don’t purchase specific user data they purchase datasets.
Like reddit will says “we have x amount of user and here is what data we collect on them” you can access this data for $Y"
So and then those companies use that data to show you personalised ads or whatever and do a fuck ton, like and obscene amount of data analysis on it and your habits to see if it was worth the cost and will renovate with reddit the price to access their data.
So one individual user going weird won’t do anything. But if you made a ton of bots and made them act weird you might be able to make the dataset worth less. But honestly probably not that much as they have tools to filter bots and stuff.
Don’t worry it probably already is.
Meta and Google disagree.
Unlink it from yourself. It’s harder than you’d think. Use a privacy respecting browser with privacy badger installed and tor or VPN. Use generic credit cards. Use burner emails and phone numbers.
If none of your stuff is linked together and none of it is linked to you, it’s not worth much, someone will buy it, but it’ll be one of a billion useless records in a huge low quality dump.
It depends on who you’re hiding from. If you want to keep the GRU off your back then burner phones sound great. If I don’t want Google to know too much about me then burner phones, generic credit cards, and tor are probably overkill.
Yeah was just trying to make the personal data worth as little as possible.
Any site you use a card on will link you in Nexus. That stuff is gold.
Even the best privacy browsers leave a fingerprint. You can run the acid test and see how unique you are. Even Firefox private browsing isn’t enough to disassociate your traffic from non private.
The problem with VPN is it’s somewhat static. Tor spreads your crap out.
But as you say, it’s who you’re trying to hide from. If you don’t want anyone to profit of you, you hide from them all as much as you can.
I use generated email/usernames everywhere I’m forced to login, in the hope they can’t connect all the dots. Don’t know if it works though.
I work in marketing, had an issue the other day someone did something weird by browsing our site with a personal email address and worked out the naming conventions we use to jump the sign up form for an in-person event and went straight to the thank-you page to get the details.
So then we had his personal email (which we didn’t want!) and had to connect it to his work email in the CRM to connect his profile.
So, for the general use cases it would work, but someone that is trying to connect the dots probably could.
There are browser extensions that fill up your data/presence with meaningless junk
Like what?
I was hoping someone else would comment since I don’t use it myself
I think it’s this
There’s definitely less valuable demographics but I doubt it would be completely worthless, you’d just be cheaper to advertise to.
I mean it might make it seem like you’re more valuable and then never buy anything, some companies would be paying more to show you ads but get less return, so you’d be costing them more money.
Maybe it it’s unreliable.
Maybe if it cannot be reliably connected to real stuff.
Ransomware has never looked attractive until now.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
E-commerce vet here. It’s easier just to try and not give out that data and to pay to have it scrubbed. But, this thought experiment is fun, so here’s how you’d make your targeting data complete trash.
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The most valuable thing about your data is your behavior and demographic characteristics, not your identity.
When you fill out forms, pretend your gender, race, and age is fluid. Also, pretend you’re nomadic. Then behave erratic as fuck online - pay for bibles, butt plugs, and taxidermy, and PETA donations
Your data will be absolute trash. You’ll also be miserable because you’re going to be visiting the Amazon drop off center with gag balls and porcelain Jesus figurines every week.
NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 1 year ago
Your comment is fucking gold. Thank you.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe you should plan better and get the ball gags in Jesus’s size so you can drop them off at the local cult