Someone introduce this person to indie games. It will shatter their world.
Ex-PlayStation boss says the games industry is "littered" with Fortnite clones and "people trying to do Overwatch with different skins," but keep dreaming if you're just trying to get "big sacks of money"
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Agent_Karyo@piefed.world to games@lemmy.world
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CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No please don’t, it’s better these executives stay well away.
muhyb@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
It’s hilarious that we live in different worlds. I have no idea what are those Fortnite or Overwatch copies. I have no interest in hero-shooters or battle-royale genres too.
sausager@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fortnight is the clone!
iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That was an article without much to say. Might as well have been a tweet.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I feel this is true about much of what you see online currently. Videos that could have been an short how-to, articles that contain mostly AI generated filler. Also, if you want support on that you better join our discord.
I have genuine gratitude to people who share their in depth knowledge online using old fashion HTML.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
You’re looking for a recipe for a fancy lasagne? Okay but first here’s my life story and the history of lasagne plus half a dozen ads
brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
As usual the worst part is the title (by design, of course. Gotta farm those clicks).
“there are too many but keep dreaming if you want big sacks of money” is not the guy’s quote. The frankenquote is ambiguous on purpose, it could sound either like sarcasm or like a semi-cautious encouragement.
In the article, he sounds way more negative toward live services than that. There’s no “but”, he just says it’s an “illusion” and it “mostly doesn’t happen”.
obinice@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I want them big sacks of mo!
Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
If you Piefed, you'll get big sacks of money instead.
ALilOff@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think the studios have been forcing it a lot in hopes of hitting the jackpot of the next big major game.
Rather I preferred when they made cornucopia of “risky” me ideas and lower budgets.
There are too many cooks in the kitchen as for example over 3,000 people work on call of duty. (From Google did not fact check further) I don’t understand how you could get that many people to work without deviation from the directors initial idea.
markz@suppo.fi 3 weeks ago
Is it even possible to hit jackpot with a fortnite clone when – y’now – fortnite exists?
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yeah sure, just do the gimmick better or introduce your own “fun” gimmick.
criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fortnite essentially got popular cloning PUBG so it doesn’t hurt to try?
Tetsuo@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
I guess we will see very soon with the release of Arc Raiders…
(According to IGN it’s a Fortnite clone pretty much because you have a pickaxe and it’s TPS.
Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gotta be different, but the same.
It’s a small target to hit but for some reason that’s all they want to aim at.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes people want the same kind of game with a different flavor. Maybe they don’t like the PUBG art style and would rather play Fortnite instead, or perhaps they don’t like Overwatch because of Blizzard and are okay with Marvel Rivals from NetEase instead.
I don’t believe that games should exist with no real competitors. That’s how you end up with games like Dead by Daylight, where community sentiment plummets but the developers have no real reason to do anything about it because where are the players going to go?
vane@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gamers Literally Only Want One Thing And It’s Fucking Disgusting. Pew Pew Pew.
Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I look at that thumbnail and all I see is an executive ranting about how this will engage fathers with their daughters who want to game together!
nEW dEMogRApHicS!!!
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Surely he knows that Fortnite is itself the clone. He has to know that they didn’t start the battle royale genre they just cutesy it up and monetize the hell out of it.
It was actually a good game when it was in beta and the building mechanics actually had some sort of point. Then they pivoted and went in the battle of royale genre and it became a microtransaction lootbox nightmare.
logan_hero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Why tf fortnite keeps getting called “lootbox nightmare” around here despite
- There never were lootboxes in br
- Lootboxes being gone for like 6 years already
- Already slapped for using lootboxes when they were active
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
That’s pretty much been the landscape of major commercial gaming since I’ve been alive. Just replace Fortnite and Overwatch with the current popular game. Doom, Diablo, Minecraft, etc.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The major difference being how many recurring costs you incur for chasing live services rather than just making Diablo or Doom clones.
wagesj45@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Same problem, new challenges.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nearly everything is a derivative of something from before. Occasionally something new comes up though. I don’t remember anything like Getting Over It seems to have created the Foddian game genre for example. And while Balatro uses relatively normal cards for its base, the gameplay itself is unique.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
The MOBA genre as we know it today simply took Warcraft 3 and tweaked the gameplay a bit with the original DOTA mod. But then stuff started ripping it off and we got League of Legends which, from what I could tell when these were rerelatively new, was the same thing as Dota but with different characters.
Palworld gets a lot of attention for duplicating some elements of Pokemon, but the whole game is basically a reskinned Ark, which itself is just Rust with more gimmicks.
The BR genre started as an Arma mod, then became a stand alone game, which Fortnite shifted gears from some kind of PvE game to add the BR that is dominating now, and everyone is trying to copy that. As a 40 year old gamer, it really is starting to feel like there is nothing new under the sun.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And ow there’s a bunch of rougelikes based around other kinds of games like dice. Not a bad thing, but Balatro has certainly started a new mini genre
rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 3 weeks ago
to be fair there are many games that are like Getting Over it or Balatro or even Vampire Survivors it’s just many of them aren’t as successful or known as those games.