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I wonder why the widespread adoption of the internet hasn't been good for society as a whole.

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  • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    On the whole, I would argue it has been.

    Social media, on the other hand, fuck no. But the internet in general absolutely.

    Knowledge sharing and research are amazingly easy now. Things that would have taken going to a library and possibly ordering 2 or 3 hard to find books, maybe several long distance phone calls, all to get 30 year old info, are now replaced by digitized records and some dude’s website.

    Access to scientific research is shockingly easy now. You’re seconds away from reading up to the minute research on anything.

    International standards also help. I can use my credit card anywhere on earth. Translate speech and text in real time. Email anyone anywhere. I can learn when the common scams are in a place before I go there. It helps make connecting with people possible anywhere.

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    • iii@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      People complain that “google has turned to shit”. But the best part of their search offering, scholar.google.com, is still as amazing as ever.

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      • wander1236@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Google hasn’t remembered it exists yet. Don’t remind them.

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      • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Google search is total shit because spammers figured out how to SEO their way into results.

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    • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Myspace was fine… Facebook fucked humanity up without consent. Facebook killed the idea of the Internet being a cyber world of freedom. Before Facebook the Internet was handles, usernames and the idea that it was all NOT real. After Facebook everything became assumed to be reality even though it’s technically not.

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    • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No.

      People rarely go on the internet to find data; they go on the internet to find data that tells them they are already right.

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    • Signtist@bookwyr.me ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The real question is whether the benefit of better access to scientific research offsets the detriment of social media. Unfortunately, I think social media use is much, much more widespread, and is thus having a significantly stronger detrimental effect than scientific research access and every other benefit combined.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No one would lie on the internet.

    Anyway, if you want to make your cake light and fluffy, you should add 2 teaspoons of WD-40 for every cup of flour used.

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Mmmm 7 layers

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  • d00phy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Dude, they don’t even need the Internet anymore. They just tell lies wherever. Tell them enough and they stop being lies. That’s how it works, right? If enough people believe the lie, it becomes the truth.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      democratically elected truth ™

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    • Theprogressivist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

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    • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m waiting to reach the threshold. One of these days I will be black.

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can lead with all new lines If you believe in what you’d say And life can be just as you make it Believe the lie and it will all come true

      Believe in every lie You’re never free to walk away You should be free to go today Believe the lie and it will all come true

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  • iii@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The weird thing is that that’s always been the case. Only thing that changed last decade is the gullibility of the reader.

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, it was the widespread adoption of social media. People aren’t more gullible you just started having non-technical in a space they dont understand and cannot behave responsibly

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      • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s marketed capitalistic abuse and rape of a technology, just like what happened to everything good that humans make.

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      • Demdaru@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Bull, people are more gullible. Back when I was a kid, if you hear something on the street, you went and checked it. But on the internet, people accept shit as-is, because they like it and that’s it. Fucking hell.

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  • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Buster would definitely have shown up to the storm Area 51 event

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    • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Buster sold me a grenade. When I was in highschool. Arthur almost ratted, but we shook him up.

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are you sure about that?

    Like I know you are going to point to the following:

    • Surveillance Capitalism
    • The rise of the Alt Right
    • Conspiracies
    • Social Media

    But I would pin that more on capitalism than anything. The internet in my opinion has been a boon for society. For example…

    • Wikipedia has basically made the HitchHikers Guide to the Galaxy real.
    • Open Source Technology wouldn’t exist as it is now without the internet.
    • There are entire businesses that wouldn’t exist without the internet.
    • There are whole fandoms that wouldn’t exist without the internet.
    • The internet has allowed for economic and political opportunities that just couldn’t be a thing if it wasn’t for the internet.
    • It’s been a boon for collaboration, which I think it’s humanity’s biggest strength.

    Do I think the internet has allowed for us to enter a cyberpunk hellscape? Yes. Do I think the internet has been a net negative for society? No!

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The current interation has made it a tool for the authoritarian. Its a completely deliberate act by the authoritarian tech sector. They saw the power they wield and they harnessed it.

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      • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But that’s on us as people electing leaders. Authoritarians exist with or without the internet, and don’t just show up one day with some cheat code to get into power. The internet didn’t create any of this from scratch.

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      • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And the people let it. I mean everyone talks about using the 2nd amendment and no one ever did.

        Any sane person saw all this shit… and by sane I don’t even mean educated… Like you can be dumb and understand all this is bullshit.

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  • InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Personally, I would never tell a lie on the internet. It’s not really lying when I do it on purpose with the goal of obfuscating the details so as to preserve my anonymity and minimize the risk of being doxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxed. And also it’s not really lying if I say it to win a debate and I actually win based on saying it. And it’s also not a lie if its in … “THE BIBLE” because it’s what Jesus would have said and what Jesus would have wanted and I know for a fact you’re not calling Jesus a liar are you?

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  • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hijacked by those with the biggest pockets.

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