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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz⁩ to ⁨memes@sopuli.xyz⁩

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  • BorgDrone@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If one upload slows down your internet you probably need a router that has a better packet scheduler. I recommend you look for one that uses FQ-CoDel

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      …yeah, because THATS what this post is about!

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      • bleistift2@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Why not have a fun joke and some education?

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      • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tbf it has 2 of 4 panels complaining about slow Internet.

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      • bvoigtlaender@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Love lemmy for that though :( Where would i learn about fqcodel if not here.

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    • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Does uploading slow down downloading? I thought the two processes were totally decoupled. How does this work?

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      • BorgDrone@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, it can slow down downloading.

        (The explanation below is simplified quite a bit)

        When you download the server that is sending you the file doesn’t just dump all the data onto the network in one go. They don’t know how fast you can receive and it’s not like the routers along the way will buffer large amounts of data. It needs to figure out how fast it can send.

        So how does it do this? The sender sends a few packets of data and then waits for the receiver to acknowledge reception before it sends more data. Now the acknowledgment message isn’t that big so when downloading the amount of data sent back (uploaded) is just a tiny fraction of the amount downloaded, so that usually doesn’t matter.

        The problem occurs when your local network is much faster than your internet upload and your router isn’t smart about which packets to send first. A good router will not allocate all the spots in the outgoing queue to the connection doing the large upload and instead will make sure the connection with smaller amounts of outgoing data will get a fair turn.

        If your router isn’t smart like that the ‘data received, please send more’ packets may be delayed and thus slow down the download.

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      • dabaldeagul@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If your router’s cpu is locked 100% because of an upload it can’t handle additional download, probably. This could be improved with a more powerful cpu or a more efficient process of sorting out up- and downloads. At least that’s what I got from the original comment. I’m not a networking expert (far from it) so take this with a big grain of salt.

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      • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        On the ISP end sometimes non symmetrical equipment is used, especially on copper coaxial which are used much like “wired wifi” in that data is transported by encoding it into frequency bands. Each frequency band can only be used up OR down per cable, so ISPs tend to dedicate more frequency bands to the downlink than to the uplink.

        And as others mentioned, the commonly used TCP protocol will slowly ramp up bandwidth by having the server send a burst of packets, the client acknowledges, then the server sends more packets faster and the client acknowledges again, and once the client and server starts noticing packet losses it backs down and resend the lost packets a bit slower, until the connection bandwidth is stable.

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    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re ignoring the fact that most areas of the US are hamstrung by super shitty asymmetric up/down bandwidths (fuck you very much, Comcast). I have 1.3gbps down… and 30mbps up, per the contract.

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      • BorgDrone@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Why don’t you switch to a different ISP? Last time I checked I could choose from 13 different ISPs on fiber alone, and that’s in ‘socialist’ Europe. I can’t even dream of how many options someone in ‘free market’US must have.

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    • 30p87@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      @FQQD@feddit.org

      FQQDel

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is a very dated meme

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  • RejZoR@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It will be slow again when son downloads his sister’s porn. Home sweet Alabaaaama!

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    • marius@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe they should invest in a family nas then so they can share is locally

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      • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Why bother with all the fancy technology? just leave the door open.

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      • weegee90@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        *incest in a nas

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    • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      *Sweet Home

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      • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        no, that’d be a copyright infringement

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that’s has to be faster ways to transfer files through a local network.

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      • RejZoR@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well, he could do the recording so there’s no need to move it anywhere, but I think we’re charting weird waters here…

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      • absolutejank@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i don’t think normies out here know how to use p2p or even a simple ftp server. people think of content as the websites they get it from, like the way youtube is synonymous with watching videos over the internet.

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Uploading her porn? Gross! To where though? There’s so many places she could upload to, which one? So disgusting!

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A fellow adherent of the scientific method, I see

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  • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Uploading wouldn’t cause a noticeable slowdown for most internet uses, unless OP was also trying to upload something as well. Most ISPs offer a fraction of the upload speed as download and your average person still doesn’t even notice a slowdown.

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    • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was the sysadmin for a ISP for over ten years. When you max your upload it slows everything down.

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      • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Definitely not standard for the US, but I max my fiber upload all the time and it just has zero impact on my download speeds.

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      • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Modern connections are much faster

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    • crusa187@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s a throughput issue not a bandwidth one. Can’t make requests to download if your uplink is fully saturated.

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    • LwL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’re trying to play a real time online game, you will notice if your upload capacity is hogged elsewhere.

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    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      With cheap routers, bufferbloat is actually more likely to cause a noticeable slowdown with uploading rather than downloading, since your upload is usually much lower it’s much easier to max it out unless you have a powerful router and/or some good QoS rules defined.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Back with old DSL and especially dialup it was a much bigger issue.

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  • hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As long as she’s a legal adult, good for her. You get that coin, chica.

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    • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      10% tax in my household

      And be grateful, GabeN and the others take 30% !

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  • SunshineJogger@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, nonono. There is a difference between upstream and downstream. The upload would not make general use noticeably slower.

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wrong, you still need to send traffic to receive it. If upload is bottlenecked your net will feel increasingly sluggish

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      • SunshineJogger@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well, yea, though that would suggest a very limited bandwidth

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    • purplemonkeymad@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You still need to send the acks when downloading. If the upload is saturated then you will still have issues downloading stuff, as either the acks are delayed or dropped.

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  • bikooo2@r.nf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A few moments later the internet is slow again, the son and father are downloding her porn

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  • apotheotic@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good for her!

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    She also could be downloading porn although I’m pretty sure streaming sites for poem exist

    For that matter the son could be uploading or streaming to porn sites

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