I was excited for borderlands. Now I’ll wait for them to make it 70% off
$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
Submitted 1 year ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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HuskerNation@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Im always thrown off as a Canadian when I see these headlines because we’ve been paying $80 for games for decades.
Video games haven’t risen in cost with inflation and they’re much better and bigger now so I’m not upset.
What I hate most is that the game actually costs $150 and they split it and give you a stripped version for $80. I think gta 4 was the last game i truly felt made sense, game releases, we buy it, story dlc comes out later we get it, transaction over. No online bullshit that tries to keep you paying money into the game without end. Not a game split into little chunks and sold as tiers at release
MoonHawk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No one is asking them to grow x50 for every successful game they sell. Sure they have more expenses but how is it in any way relevant to the consumer? There’s no shortage of studios increasing budget massively and then shitting the bed when it comes to quality and actual gameplay. They are literally doing that to themselves.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Video games haven’t risen in cost with inflation and they’re much better and bigger now
I agree with the bigger, but not better tbh
sixtoe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
ugh. i wont even pirate it. gross
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Dead Island 2 is free on Epic currently, and probably more fun than Borderlands 4; BL 3 wasn’t written well, and i assume the same for BL 4. A shame, BL2 i one of my most played FPS
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s like they don’t understand how piracy works.
w8ghT@lemy.nl 1 year ago
More like 80 plus gamers not supporting the NintenoDONT greed trend.
ISolox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m a huge borderlands fan. I will not be buying this for $80 lol.
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lol Randy actively taking the winds out of his own sails.
I hope he rots in piss.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
mm yes gatekeeping and money shaming, that’ll convince them.
bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Shut up. Dingus.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
To quote LazyTown: Yar har, fiddle de dee…
mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sail the high sea! 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
PanArab@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Since I didn’t enjoy the handsome collection I wouldn’t buy it at any price, but even for games I do enjoy I wait until they are on sale preferably with the DLCs included
carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The trailer for the new borderlands looked like the most soulless, boring cash grab. Anyone put much time into it yet?
Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I don’t condone this, but we already had $60 games 10 years ago. If you simply add inflation you’d be at $81 today. That doesn’t even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.
Video games really are a cheap hobby comparatively speaking. I still wait for sales of course :)
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Games have also gotten massively cheaper due to distribute due to digital downloads being the most common, and they’re making way more sales due to gaming having a much larger audience.
The main reason these games have ridiculously inflated budgets are because execs are pushing for more management, which in turn push for oversized teams making design-by-committee out of fear of making something people don’t like. The gamin industry doesn’t get to make excuses anymore. Them being unable to reign in their development budgets aren’t our problem. They need to figure out how to offer games at a lower price, because they’re going to run out of customers willing to pay otherwise
Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Actually around half the budget of an AAA game is just marketing cost. Which feels wasteful, but if you need to recoup hundreds of millions it might be necessary.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
That doesn’t even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.
It also doesn’t take into account how much more they make even at the lower price points
If game companies want more money for their games they can start by cutting the worthless CEOs, not raising prices
Vlyn@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Actually around half the budget of an AAA game is just marketing cost. Which feels wasteful, but if you need to recoup hundreds of millions it might be necessary.
dermanus@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Games have been surprisingly inflation resistant. I paid $70 for Playstation games in the 90s.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I will never buy the game out of spite
Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s what he thinks.
hark@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I didn’t want borderlands even when it was cheaper.
Harvey656@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Suck my cock pitchford. Hope the game bombs as bad as the movie fuckwad.
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
SUS USB Randy Pitchford?
Zess@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Likely pedophile Randy Pitchford.
kmartburrito@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m really bad about buying new games at launch where I like the franchise and getting burned (looking at you bf2042).
However with all of the stupid politics, tariffs, and recession coming in the US, I’m sure the hell not buying this at $80, even if I’m a long term borderlands fan. I have way too many games in my library I should be playing/finishing anyway.
I hope others speak with their wallets as well.
lefixxx@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I am not a reaI fan ?.I am ok with being a “hypothetical” fan and buying it later at a reasonable price
Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Guess we all know what we have to do
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 1 year ago
Arr, matey
schwim@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Or wait the number of years it takes to be on sale for $20.
KingOogaBooga@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yarrr Matey, they’ll find a way.
Siresly@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’ve found a way.
- Invite Randy Pitchford to Medieval Times.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Randy Pitchfork?
chatroom@lemm.ee 1 year ago
[deleted]Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Imagine preordering a game in 2025.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Didn’t pre-order PS, 3, or any of the others, why would we for this one?
Especially with Bl3 getting their eula updated to be horrible
8bittech@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They never fixed the bugs in Borderlands 3. Let me rush out and get this
markovs_gun@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Idk. I think gamers are overly upset about $80 games. While I am sympathetic to not wanting the price to go up, the fact of the matter is that brand new video games cost pretty much the same as they did 30 years ago, while the cost of everything else has basically doubled in that time. I know it’s probably not what is going to happen but if $80 video games are what it takes to get us away from shitty microtransactions in full price games, then I’m all for it. I know the crowd on Lemmy will just say they should make less profit and do neither but that’s just not how the world works right now and nobody is going to do that.
Food for thought- here are some prices in 1996 and today
New video game: 1996- $67 (Super Mario 64), 2025- $70 McDonald’s Big Mac meal: 1996- $2.45, 2025-$9.29 Base package Honda Civic: 1996- $10,360, 2025-$24,250 Average apartment - 1996- $550/mo, 2025- $1,540/mo Median annual income- 1996- $20,109, 2025- $50,200
Doesn’t one of these stand out?
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And let’s take this outside of the myopic view of only looking at inflation.
visualcapitalist.com/video-game-industry-revenues…
Console gaming revenue: 1996 - 7 billion, 2022 - 30 billion
Let’s look at specifically Nintendo here since we’re talking about Super Mario 64
www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2001/011121e.pdf
2001, 664 million in profit, adjusted for inflation in 2022 dollars, 1 billion.
www.tweaktown.com/news/84668/…/index.html
2022, 1.7 billion dollars in profit.
You forget that in 1996 the gaming pool was also magnitudes smaller compared to today and despite all of the whining about increased development costs, which I also think is bullshit but that’s a different conversation, profits have increased to keep up.
So my opinion, no there’s absolutely no justification for a 80 dollar price point when you look at the over all picture.
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yarrrrr
carlossurf@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Borderlands 3 was the first game I didnt even bother finishing, just super boring lol