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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨chrizbie@lemmy.nz⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • unagi@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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    • Number358@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux plus Wayland plus KDE plus KWin plus Plasma. Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

      Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

      There really is a Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma added, or GNU/Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma. All the so-called Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux/Wayland/KDE/KWin/Plasma!

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    • Killing_Spark@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yadda yadda alpine Linux yadda yadda

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This but Linux.

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      • nogrub@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        yadda yadda nooo distro is better bla bla bla yadda

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    • uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This smells of copy/pasta BUT if GNU is the OS and Linux is the kernel, are all the so-called Linux distributions in fact not distributions of GNU/Linux but distributions of just GNU? Since they are changing the OS and not the kernel? Unless they are leaving GNU as is and changing the kernel, in which case it actually is a distribution of Linux.

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      • melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Distributions often ship their own compiled versions of the kernel, with some options changed, but it’s still Linux. Same with GNU tools. But the main difference between distros isn’t their flavor of GNU tools or what kernel they ship, the difference between distros is actually all the stuff that gets layered on top like the package manager.

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      • tool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It has become copypasta, but it is pretty much a direct quote.

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You fucking freax

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They’re folders when it’s a GUI and directories when it’s a shell. It’s been that way since long before Linux existed.

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  • rambaroo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And yet every Linux DE uses folder icons to represent “directories”.

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    • MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I find it ironic that windows uses dir - ie directory - to list what’s there, but Linux only uses ls to list whatever the fuck

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      • bemenaker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Dos called it directories, and windows ran on top of dos. And windows users say both.

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      • SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Wdym? ‘dir’ comes with coreutils by default!

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  • IverCoder@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    IMHO “folder” just sounds a lot more cozier than “directory”.

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    • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I misread “cozier” as “cooler” and wondered if you were completely insane.

      Now I imagine some lemming cozying up on a desk full of office supplies.

      Either way I don’t really get it.

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  • egeres@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The fact that this post got so many upvotes in c/lemmyshitpost says a lot about this community 👀

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    • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the 4 windows users atm

      • just nod and smile, boys
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    • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just lemmy in general.

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  • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Foldurr

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    • mifan@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      FOLD THE DIR!!!

      FOLD THE DIR!

      Fold the dir!

      Fold dir…

      Foldr…

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      • aksdb@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        … and then you get shredded to bits by a horde of Linux users.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Huh, am I the only one who has intentionally started callling them folders on Linux as well? The problem is that the world has gotten more complex over the years and “directory” no longer has a unique meaning. In fact Windows users especially may think of folders as that UI thing, and directories as the thing that has all the user accounts (and of course accounts may no longer uniquely mean users so you need to be more explicit there as well).

    Most of my career, “directories” was the proper term. However After more miscommunications in the last decade or so, I changed my phrasing to account for human error.

    And don’t get me started on tools like GitLab, where folders are called “groups”, or another that calls them “portfolios”

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    • gamer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have never in my (nearly) 20 years of being a software developer and general tech geek and (nearly) 10 years of exclusive linux desktop use, ever distinguished between the terms “folder” and “directory”, nor encountered anyone who did either.

      OP is just being weird.

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      • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s just a joke

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  • elxeno@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    alias cf=cd
    
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  • HellAwaits@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Linux group after rightfully stating their distro choice factually sucks: RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE…

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    • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “It sucks” is an opinionated statement, not a fact, and thus can’t be rightful.

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        what if it’s embedded linux in a hoover?

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        On the contrary. Opinions are subjective individual experience, and will always be rightful in the person’s eyes. Just like an opinion cannot be objectively true. An opinion cannot, by definition, be wrong. It’s their opinion, and they’re entitled to it, and to tell them their subjective experience of reality is incorrect in matters of taste is not only tactless but pointless.

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  • Korne127@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Interesting

    From how I have experienced it, folder is macOS-speech and directory is Windows-speech.

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    • midas10@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I guess if you have knowledge of the Windows terminal and tech in general but the average Windows user definitellyyyy calls it a folder

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    • Octopus1348@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And Linux-speech is place

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  • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Starting with Apple II, folder never caught on with me anyway. Everything has always been a directory.

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    • tasty_brews@lolimbeer.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m lazy and saying “folder” is fewer syllables than saying “directory”.

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    • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yah, these kids and their new-fangled “Graphical User Interfaces” have to keep coming up with new words for the same old stuff all the time.

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  • Mandy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When you mention you used a GUI:

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  • uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s genius!

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I use them interchangeably

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    • smackjack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I say folder when I’m in the GUI file manager, and I say directory when I’m in the terminal.

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