Oxyacetylene torch. It cannot be tight if it’s liquid.
If you can find the oil filter, I'll give you a quarter. If you can get it out after the lube tech tightened it to 325 lbft, I'll give you sixty bucks.
Submitted 2 weeks ago by spicytuna62@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I would hesitate to take a tirch to an oil filter.
NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What could go wrong? It’ll be fine
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Tin snips would be a better option if you just absolutely can’t get it off.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I love the way you think. Fire always solves something lmao
NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just remember Newton’s first law: Fire is fucking awesome
jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 weeks ago
naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I’m not a mechanic, so please bear with me
What the living hell is that thing of a tool? OoNielsBohron@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m no mechanic either, but it looks like you can tighten the chain around a stuck cap and then use the red handle as a lever to apply a large amount of force, “unsticking” the stuck cap
qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Are you taking suggestions or questions?
The oils filter is the bright blie thingamabob sticking out the side of the engine on the bottom of the screen.
To remove it, I risk I could, but only after sharing a piece of my mind with the loon that tightened it at that setting.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I detect Honda B-series engine. Damn, if only I hadn’t spent the last 5 years of my life exclusively working on my own Honda of identical build.
Your oil filter is accessed from underneath the car, you will need a set of ramps or a floor jack and jackstands.
It is on the rear side of the engine block, horizontally screwed onto the side of the block. Basically trace your exhaust pipe straight back as it goes under the oil pan, then go up. It’s not terribly hard to reach.
Get yourself a locking chain wrench like this to try and get it off. I’ve been able to get off even the most fucked oil filters with one
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s an H22A in a Prelude Type SH.
There is no room to get to the oil filter from the bottom. Believe me. I tried. This engine mounts it up top to make room for the ATTS unit. The base Preludes, however, do have side-mounted oil filters that are significantly easier to reach. The filter on my R-series Civic is bottom-mounted and super easy to reach. But yeah, this guy was a true PITA
moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
H Series Gang! There have been a lot of times I’ve been happy my Prelude is not an SH, and I enjoy my T2W4 swap! I’ve got a DC2 Integra with an H23 VTEC swap that’s pretty fun, but I would’ve kept the B18 personally! I can live without power steering but no A/C in the south is rough.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you can get a screwdriver through it, you might be able stick a pipe on said screwdriver to give you a lot more torque. Just have an oil pan underneath, because it will start leaking oil when you put the screwdriver through it.
gnu@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
The only time I’ve resorted to the screwdriver technique (due to not having enough room to tighten and then turn a strap/chain wrench) the screwdriver shank just tore through the filter when I tried to turn it, a broader tool like a wide chisel might have a better chance of success.
What I ended up using that time was an air hammer with a broad headed chisel (pushing on the side where the impact would unscrew the filter). The angles wouldn’t work well for this in OPs case but if you have enough side access to get the air hammer through it’s a decent last resort.
stankmut@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I had to do this to get the factory oil filter off my motorcycle. Went through 3 different oil filter removal tools and all I achieved was rounding off all the edges of the filter.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yep. I had that issue with my Jeep Patriot. Tried everything I could think of to not have to puncture the thing, but I couldn’t get it off any other way.
DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You have fifteen minutes in the game, son. Go score a backrub or whatever they call it idk I don’t coach football.
DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I feel weird, dad. What’s that feeling? It feels like you noticed me trying and value my contribution. I don’t trust it. 😵💫
Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
The screwdriver trick is mid imo - you run a major risk of just shearing the filter body wall and now your problem is a leaky oil filter that’s much harder to grasp with other hand tools. Go buy a strap wrench that you can use to install and remove.
Or for the very stubborn filters, these kind of tools are very much a one trick pony that only takes the filter off, but it’s a good trick - it has worked every single time for me.
LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
If you’re too sissy to use a screwdriver, you can always use a punch. Those are the true bottoms of the tool chest, made to be used hard and put away filthy.
iowagneiss@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Cars with oil filters like that always roll in when you’re not busy, so they don’t get to cool in the lot, and you get to watch your skin melt when you accidentally touch metal. Good times.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Are we allowed to take out interference items?
over_clox@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
OP offered $60 if someone can do it for them, so as long as you get the job done and everything reinstalled and running, sure, go for it.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lmao yeah I just grabbed some oil filter pliers from the parts store. That did the trick. So many interference items just for an oil filter. I got maybe two degrees of rotation with each squeeze.
NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lean over with a good grippy glove and wrench that little blue bitch out.
Or buy Honda Part number 07AAA-PLCA100 and a ratchet.
ProxyZeus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Looks like it’s going to be a bitch, good luck!
MildlyUnusual@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is that a b20 in a CRV? It looks like where it was on mine anyways. Bitch to get out when tight because I had to reach up over the subframe and power steering rack to get to the damn thing.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nope. H22A in a Prelude. There’s no way to get it from the bottom, unless Gilderoy Lockhart just “mended” your arm or you are Mr. Fantastic in the flesh. You must get it from the top.
The H22A4 that comes in base Preludes has the filter on the side. It’s much easier to reach, but you will spill. This top mounted filter on the Type SH drains back to the pan every time you switch the engine off, but it’s a real pain to get to.
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Devils advocate: As a mechanic, if I tighten the oil filter too little, I’m liable for thousands in repairs. If I tighten the oil filer too much, some rando curses me but I don’t hear it and continue sleeping like a baby. Or it comes back to me and I don’t care if it’s tight, Ive got the tools that make it easy.
So, sorry, not sorry. I’m gonna keep cranking those puppies down.
Also your PCV hose is starting to look pregnant.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shhhhhhhhh
We ignore little things until they’re problems. Tis the broke bitch car guy way.
Yeah, it’s pushing thirty years old. We’ve got some deferred maintenance items to tend to. This isn’t my daily lol
And no I totally don’t blame the techs and mechanics for super snugging filters. I was pissed off an hour ago, but now that I’m on the other side of this equation, I get it.
I mean, I’m still pissed, but I get it lol
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
I wouldn’t sweat it until I had to remove it for some reason either.
Those old Civics are indestructible.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
You see where that filter is. You damned well know it was tightened with just a hand and no tool was involved. OP just needs to pull out his man hand and power that sucker loose.
qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Okay, you’re a mechanic, great, you’re awsome, thank you for your input but oil filters do have a set torque strenght to be tightened to. Overtighten any screw can and will cause damage either to the screw itself or the socket it is being driven into and I’m sure you know it.
I had a mechanic do this - the better to overtighten than not - and strip the socket of the oil level sound: the mounting block was aluminum, the screw was steel. Guess what happened when the sound had to be replaced?
The cost to have that damage alone repaired made scrap the car. It was still in good shape but not worthy of spending that much to repair.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Just as a another form of Devil’s advocate, going over the manufacturer’s recommended specs on it isn’t a good idea either and intentionally making a car have to go back to a shop in order to be repaired on something that should be as simple repair is the easiest way to make it so the customer doesn’t come back
I had that happen with my first vehicle, normally I change my own oil and filter because it’s about the most stupid easy job that you can do, but it was finals week and I already had way too much stuff on plate so I caved and under my parents recommendation brought it to a local shop
Everything went fine didn’t spend through the roof but the next time I went to change my oil oh my God those fuckers put that oil pan plug on there so fucking tight that there was actually signs that it was starting to strip/warp, I had to get my dad to help me with it which was super embarrassing and he laughed at me until he tried to do it himself and he fucking struggled with it.
It was clear that shop intentionally made it as tight as fucking possible because they wanted to make it so the next time it happened they wanted it to be brought in again. After we finally got it off we both agreed on one thing, neither of us are bringing our vehicles back to that shop again.
seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I’m sorry that happened. But literally no one, even the shadiest shop, is doing that intentionally. Laziness and using air tools, probably. Trying to save a buck by using the original crush washer and just tightening it down harder, also likely. Intentionally over tightening so you have to come back to them; extremely unlikely.
That’s exactly what you should do if you’re not happy with the service. But be prepared to wait to get into a decent mechanic. The ones that provide shitty service are able to stay in business because there is always someone in a hurry. And this is why I say they aren’t intentionally over torquing your drain bolt. They don’t give a shit if you come back on not; there’s plenty others waiting.
I’m glad my professional wrenching isn’t in the automotive field any more.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 week ago
„Manufacturer doesn’t know shit” Random car guy in a greasy shop.