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Will Republicans try another Federal Right to Work attempt?

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨BadmanDan@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A quick Google search:

    In the context of labor law in the United States, the term right-to-work laws refers to state laws that prohibit union security agreements between employers and labor unions.

    And I still don’t know what right-to-work laws are.

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    • LethalSmack@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right to work is: A right to be fired at any point for any reason or no reason at all

      The goal is to get around any union protections that require things like a legitimate reason to be fired from a job.

      It also has the added bonus of drastically reducing the benefits of unions and making them much easier to prevent.

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      • Dagrothus@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I love how we name laws that really mean the exact opposite of what their name implies. Very american.

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The way I try to remember it is that it comes from the employers perspective:

        • Right to Work employees to death by ignoring unions
        • The employer has the right to fire workers At Will
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      • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Being fired for any or no reason is at will employment.

        Right to work has nothing to do with that. It’s about allowing people to not pay union dues. Those people are still protected by the union contract.

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      • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re conflating “at will employment” with “right to work” laws.

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      • PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mix these two up as well - thanks for the clarification.

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      • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No union I’ve ever been part of required me being in it in order to work at a place. It was always optional. So strange.

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    • Bronzebeard@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They prevent you from having to join a union to work at a company. And you don’t have to pay dues either.

      You can effectively benefit from the unions bargaining without supporting the union - which if enough people do that kills the union (the goal of the law).

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    • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Right to Work” simply means “Anti-Union”.

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    • CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hopefully, I’m not wrong, but basically unions typically require Members Pay dues out of income. Right to work essentially forbid that practice making do payments optional. Which drives down the union revenue

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    • WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Unions typically have an agreement where employees don’t have to join the union but they still have to pay a fee equivalent to union dues, and the employer can’t pay non-members more than union members, or other similar restrictions.

      The idea is to remove the ability for the employer to offer an advantage to non-members.

      TLDR it’s an essential part of making a functional union.

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    • modality@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right to Work means you can have a union job but not join the union. You have the right to”right to work” without being a union member or paying any union dues. Generally it means you get all the benefits without contributing but also unions are usually a lot weaker since so many people opt out, so also the benefits are lesser. Because it is governed by state-level laws, details vary from state to state.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s the whole fucking point. The name sounds like its a good thing though, right? So I’m sure that means it’s good…

      But no, “Right to Work,” just means that employees are allowed to choose not to pay union dues (or even partial dues), despite receiving all of the benefits of being in that collective bargaining bloc.

      If a workplace unionizes, all employees at that level become part of the same collective bargaining bloc, and the union will protect them. If you want to work in that position, you have to be a member of the union at some level (unless you are a government employee since the Janus SCOTUS decision).

      Probably just made it more confusing but hopefully not.

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    • HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Is it in Colorado? If it is, it’s a good thing. If not, it’s a bad thing. Right to work is a bad thing.

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      • BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Colorado does not have Right to Work

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    lol “Right to Work” - Conservatives love to use “freedom” words when they ban or restrict something. If they instituted the death penalty for criticizing the government it would be the “Freedom From Putting Up With Whining” Bill.

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, that would be called “right to die with dignity”

      Even though that means the opposite of what it means anywhere else (euthanasia)

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    • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not your right to (do) work. It’s the employer’s right to (have) work (provided to them at low cost). So you’re absolutely right about the FFPUWW.

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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Right to Bow To Employer’s Whim laws you mean?

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    • BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, will they try it again?

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      • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Try it? They’ll enshrine it in the constitution with the control they have now.

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Let me make this easy for everyone.

    If something is detrimental to average Americans and beneficial to the wealthy, Republicans will absolutely attempt to do it.

    That is a fullproof formula.

    The part that’s hard to wrap your mind around is how average Americans can be so stupid as to elect them despite this being an easily provable fact.

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    • AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bone apple tea to you my good sir

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Missouri voted to amend their state constitution to enshrine abortion rights, and also voted in Republicans into national seats and the white house which is most likely going to result in a national abortion ban that overrides the state constitution.

      People are morons.

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    • AyuTsukasa@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ll tell you exactly how. They’ve purposely gutted our education system.

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Uh, I think you mean “fool-proof”. Also, the US clearly keeps inventing more easily-conned fools…

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  • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’re onto killing a bigger fish: The National Labor Review Board.

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    • Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Relations not review

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  • eatham@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What is a right to work law?

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    • Tinidril@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s an orwellian term for a package of anti-worker and anti-union laws. The centerpiece where the name comes from is making it illegal for a union shop to require workers to pay union dues.

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      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s not your right to (do) work. It’s the employer’s right to (have) work (provided to them at low cost).

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    • Skydancer@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also called “at will” employment. The employer can fire you “at will” and you have the “right to work” somewhere else.

      What it actually is is a union busting law. You have the “right to work” for an employer without being required to join a union. Generally this means being covered by any collective bargaining agreement but not paying the union dues. Which means the union collapses because it can’t afford to keep itself running. These are the laws that collapsed the American trade union movement.

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      • s1ndr0m3@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “At will” and “right to work” are two different laws. You accurately described “at will employment.” “Right to work” laws make it illegal for unions to mandate the dues that you would pay them. It effectively defunding and disempowering unions.

        According to Wikipedia, “In the context of labor law in the United States, the term right-to-work laws refers to state laws that prohibit union security agreements between employers and labor unions. Such agreements can be incorporated into union contracts to require employees who are not union members to contribute to the costs of union representation.”

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Feel free to crosspost to !AskUSA@discuss.online

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    • BadmanDan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thank you so much, this is what I was looking for.

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      • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Happy to help!

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Srsly? They’ll never stop, any more than the pope will become a Muslim.

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