Convection ovens. The branding of ‘air fryer’ always makes me cringe.
Air fryers are simpler than you think, but still pretty neat [19:38]
Submitted 5 months ago by FenrirIII@lemmy.world to videos@lemmy.world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h9JhW-m35o
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Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was like you once and believed a convention oven and air fryer are the same thing and produce the same results. But I was wrong!
There’s actually a subtle but crucial difference between an air fryer and a convection oven. A convection oven only circulates air around inside the oven, keeping the steam trapped with the food, while an air fryer actually removes all of the steam away from the food, allowing it to get much crispier much faster than is possible with a convection oven.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
so an air fryer is more like a small convection oven?
if you want the steam to escape, you can just open the oven door for a few seconds and there it goes.
Fester@lemm.ee 5 months ago
My oven has gas burners in the top and bottom of the oven, and a tiny fan in the back for convection bake. The wee fan is meant to help distribute heat evenly throughout the oven. Convection is meant for baking multiple trays on both racks - it spreads the heat evenly throughout.
The air fryer has a big fan right behind the big heating element, which sits a few inches above the food, and blasts heat directly onto the food.
Similar components, but entirely different results.
Your comparison is rightly dispels the misconception that any “frying without oil” is happening though. An air fryer is closer to an oven, convection or otherwise, than it is to a deep fryer and pan-frying with oil. You just won’t get the same speed or results with a convection oven, though. They’re different designs.
barsoap@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I’m not entirely against calling it frying, in both cases you have heat transfer by immersion in a dry liquid as contact medium, as opposed to heating with infrared radiation (e.g. toaster, many kinds of spits), direct contact with no or little contact medium (hot pan with no/minimum oil, waffle iron), using water (which is wet) as contact medium which invariably makes things soggy instead of crispy and thus very different, or directly moving the atoms in the food (microwave).
That is: If you have a look at all the different ways to transfer heat into things then frying and baking are actually darn close to each other in the first place, compared to the rest. And air frying in particular brigs baking into the frying range of crispiness so I’d say fair is fair, you can fry with air as long as you make you air mean enough.
lemming741@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Any decent electric convection oven has an element around the fan. Mine is 2500w, 1000w more than most countertop appliances.
partselect.com/PS2368832-Frigidaire-318255511-Con…
Even the ones built into microwaves have it but they’re a measly 900w it seems.
argarath@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You should watch the video, they had that same thought
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
it’s the same general idea but they don’t perform the same.
tehmics@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Watch the video
wandermind@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
That’s a big point in the video, the creator also thought that they’re just glorified convection ovens. But it turns out that air fryers and convection ovens are optimized for different tasks so the food comes out differently, and there are other advantages to an air fryer too, depending on the situation. Just because they use the same technology doesn’t mean they do the exact same thing.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
someone in the comments on youtube pointed out that many purpose built air fryers exhaust the air so the interior stays drier, where convection ovens recirculate air and hang onto humidity.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 months ago
I got an air fryer this year, and I definitively recommend it. It was cheap, I paid 350 reals (roughly 70 euros). In some cases the food is really similar to deep-fried food, but the biggest appeal of the device is as a small but powerful oven - specially for stuff like
- chicken wings - they turn out wet but well cooked, with a crispy outside
- reheating stale bread - pat it with a bit of water, then plop it in the air fryer.
- frozen potato fries - as he mentions in the video they get damn great
- milanesa - it doesn’t get identical to deep-fried milanesa but it’s really good, and way better than doing it in the oven.
If looking for a model make sure to get one with a detachable false bottom, otherwise you’ll get the problem andrewta mentioned and won’t be able to clean it right.
Skanky@lemmy.world 5 months ago
My dude… Get ready for some more great suggestions…
Reheating Pizza
Cooking salmon or any kind of fish really. Suggest panko breading
Same goes for pork chops. Go with the thick ones - they get wonderfully crispy but very juicy inside
BACON!!!
Roasted potatoes - make sure to cut them into larger chunks than you usually do
lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Reheating greasy/fried foods alone makes these things worth it imo. Im no detractor of cold pizza but its just not necessary anymore, this shit is magic
Agent641@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I don’t own an air fryer. I’m not in the market for an air fryer. I’m not very interested in air fryers.
technology connections
Fucks sake
Clicks link
iii@mander.xyz 5 months ago
Pff, it’s just heating and stirring the air, not frying it.
lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 months ago
Yup. And that’s still damn useful.
That’s the whole point of the video.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
great. now I want a sunbeam radiant control toaster.
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 5 months ago
My client struggles with showing youtube thumbnails but at this point I recognize technology connections videos just by how he writes his titles.
beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
If I got an oven with grill and fan forced, do I really need an air-fryer?
I don’t see an overwhelming reason to be honest.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You don’t need it. You won’t get the same end result with your setup, but if you don’t feel like you’re missing anything there’s no reason to get one.
beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
So they’re for… Small meals, fast(er)meals (frozen is still a quick meal), and … those people without a normal oven?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
No.
andrewta@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Most of them are a pain in the ass to properly clean. My mom has a ninja air fryer. There is no way to remove the top grate. The grease builds up in it.
simplejack@lemmy.world 5 months ago
TIL the new “air fryer” version of my old convection toaster over is the same device, but with a basket accessory.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Dont they also fill all ur food with micro plastics?
argarath@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The components inside it are metal, plastic wouldn’t be able to handle that heat so they are unable to add any plastics to your food
elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
It’s not microplastics that worry me. It’s heated plastics, which is why I don’t use plastics in the microwave or use non stick cookware. BTW, the fancy air fryer seems to be all metal, like the toaster ovens.
Also, why the downvotes to a reasonable question?
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Why downvotes? I think cos everyone is using it and they dont wanna have to confront the idea they fucking themselves.
PlantJam@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not that I’m aware of, no.
kurikai@lemmy.world 5 months ago
For some reason I knew it was technology connections just by reading the title
lemming741@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And the duration
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The man spent like half an hour discussing light switches.