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Youtube deletes and strikes Linus Tech Tips video for teaching people how to live without Google. Ft. Louis Rossman

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mesamunefire@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨videos@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHwP6S_jf7g

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  • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    LTT vs Google.

    I’ll side with LLT on this, but that doesn’t mean I want to support their channel.

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    • Potatisen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why? What did LTT do?

      Out of the loop on this.

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      • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Quick summary, probably missing a lot, but…

        • Two-ish years ago they decided to sell an overpriced backpack with no warranty. This was criticized considering everything else in the same price/quality categories would have lifetime warranties. This led to Linus Sebastien going on a rant about how warranties are worthless and people should just trust him and that anyone who wanted a warranty was going to threaten his wife (the CFO and one of the major shareholders) were he to die. LMG eventually walked back and provided a pretty good warranty but this is largely considered the “masks off” moment
        • One-ish years ago, during a fan tour one of the engineers in Lab (LMG’s hardware testing warehouse) criticized Hardware Unboxed and Gamers Nexus with some (actually false) nonsense claims about how LMG do their testing and why it makes them better than everyone else. After this blew up, Linus went on his podcast to say he stands by the engineer.
        • Needless to say, GN and HUB took that personally and it led to GN doing one of their industry takedown videos (usually reserved for MSI or ASUS) on LMG with lots of documented examples of downright comedic levels of incompetence in how they review hardware and present results that point toward systemic issues that undermine all the orgs who actually take benchmarking and the like seriously.
        • Also, GN pointed out that one of the most egregious examples was the recent one where LMG were sent a prototype GPU cooler and a GPU to review. LMG proceeded to “lose” the card they were sent and use a random different model for the test and then shit on the product endlessly while insisting it doesn’t matter that they didn’t actually test it because it was a shit product. They then sold the prototype at their convention to an unknown party. All while ghosting the company and ignoring their requests for the prototype back.
        • This led to “drama” where Linus, on the LTT Forums, accused Steve (GN) of being biased and a horribly unprofessional reporter for not giving LMG a chance to get ahead of the accusations and insisted they had already addressed all the issues. Which was later revealed to be that they finally replied to the GPU Cooler company literally minutes before Linus posted to gaslight people.
        • Also, as part of this, a former employee (Madison) who had left mysteriously spoke out about the sexual harassment and assault she experienced at LMG.
        • The harassment was corroborated by other former staff (one has since recanted after he couldn’t find a new job) and audio of her manager (James Streib) making stripper jokes to the entire company during the company mandated sexual harassment seminar THE DAY AFTER MADISON QUIT BECAUSE OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT re-surfaced. Streib is still the face of one of the LMG channels.
        • This ALSO reminded people of when, OG of Maker Youtube and 3d Printing, Naomi Wu spoke about how Linus had insisted she come to his hotel room at like 3 am if she wanted to do a collaboration and that it made her feel uncomfortable. Allegedly this was all a big misunderstanding and Linus only accidentally removed his wife from the email chain, but Naomi is used to that shit and had much bigger stuff (like the CCP…) to deal with when this was resurfacing.

        And just general douche-baggery.

        But mostly? It just means to take anything LMG does with a massive grain of salt. They have repeatedly demonstrated that they are not above manipulating their audience and influence to push anti-consumer behavior. So a video where they were “too spicy” for Google for promoting alternatives (some of which LMG themselves operate) is, to quote the children, sus. And yeah, it sounds like the issue has nothing to do with “don’t use gmail or youtube” and all to do with “use this random third party app that bypasses all the ads so you can still use youtube”.

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      • mlg@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Other than the stuff already mentioned here, people (probably fairly accurately) thought Linus was a salesman douche with no real knowledge of computers back in the NCIX days.

        It was partially true, he was basically a warehouse manager who happened to get lucky making a successful youtube channel which he turned into his own media business after NCIX died.

        But that’s what the key term is. It’s Linus Media Group. Their top goal is to create content that generates views for revenue, and not content that might be useful or takes a lot of effort to do.

        Which is why you will almost never see any heavy IT people watching his videos. There are so many examples of people running entire data centers in their house better than LMG could do with actual budget, server space, and hardware. They used to use windows server for everything because they didn’t have anyone who knew linux lol.

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      • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They’ve been criticized of rushing and skimping on accurate / ethical review practices. There are aLeo allegations that LTT is a fairly toxic work environment, but, the former has more concrete evidence since the janky reviews were recorded and uploaded.

        And on a more subjective note, a lot of people aren’t really into the way that Linus behaves on camera. I’m in this camp. I find that he often comes off pretty arrogant and belittling when he’s interacting with his staff on camera.

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      • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lied about a review of a product prototype they’d been sent. “Lost” it, gave a bad review based on tests of it (but it was a different product, not the actual one). Then later apparently they SOLD this prototype & told the company who had lent them it that they’d lost it.

        So you can totally trust them claiming they didn’t sexually harass women employees. /s

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      • SacralPlexus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Apparently posted a video about how to avoid ads on YouTube using adblockers, etc.

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    • xenoclast@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right? I learned how to block channel in FreeTube motivated entirely so I don’t have to see his stupid face in my recommendations

      I feel like we’ll find out this was engineered for clicks by them.

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      • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I left when every other video was about the personal lives of Linus or his staff. I know that developing the parasocial is important to any channel, but it turns me off.

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      • deafboy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I actually like those, and started to watch the channel regularly after the house remodeling series.

        What’s barely sufferable are the “we bought stuff from the internet and here it is. check out our sponsor…” videos that’s been published a lot lately.

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  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For visibility, here is the list of ways around youtube ads he was supposedly banned for mentioning:

    Desktop:

    • freetubeapp.io
    • github.com/LibreTubeApp/LibreTube
    • github.com/yattee/yattee
    • invidious.io
    • Apparently searching for a youtube url in Bing.com and clicking on the thumbnail gives you the video with no ads

    Android:

    • grayjay.app
    • newpipe.net
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    • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Firefox with uBlock Origin also works nicely.

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      • sapetoku@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Also SponsoBlock

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    • Lizardking27@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also revancedAlso

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    • Hedlosa@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I use pipepipe off fdroid and love it, it even has sponsorblock built in if you enable it!

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  • tpihkal@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I just bought a Google Pixel!

    So that I can install GrapheneOS on it.

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    • phoneymouse@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wish it didn’t have to be that way, lol. Can’t we have some quality third party hardware?

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      • Zyansheep@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fairphone? Graphene doesn’t support it tho 😭

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    • Quik@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is sooooo incredibly sad!!! I’m currently on an older iPhone and probably getting a Pixel next month; I would really have liked it if there were a bigger variety of phones where I could live truly Google-free, and I would much prefer not having to give Google money to not be reliant on Google…

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      • theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Buy second hand or refurbished. Better for the planet, cheaper and you aren’t directly giving google anything :)

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      • Foni@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Look at the Nokia (yes, those Nokia) have models with android asap

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    • cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s just a shame it doesn’t have any extra micro SSD card slots for extra storage…

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      • tpihkal@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I do find that disappointing but I don’t store many pictures on my phone so I think the 256gb will probably be more than enough for me.

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    • Rixonomic@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I went through three Pixels (6, 6 pro, and 7) with Graphene before I finally gave up. Not because of Graphene, but because Pixels break so easily, and even small damage to the screen will almost certainly render the phone unusable. I’m a contractor, and I need a phone that can handle some moderate abuse. But even with Internet cases, my Pixels could just not hang.

      Sadly, with a heavy heart and a wounded concience, I’ve gone back to Samsung. Yes, they spy on me, and yes I absolutely detest it, but at least I can drop my phone once a month and not have to replace it or pay $200 for a screen replacement.

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      • Zoot@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Tell me you don’t have a note without telling me you don’t have a note;-;.

        Always wanted a pixel myself, but similar thing being in a trade. My note 9 has a bent screen ffs and still works perfectly. It just needs to be pressed shut pccasionally… 200$ to replace the screen though, fuck that.

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      • tpihkal@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That really blows. I have an office job and am generally easy on my electronics. Hopefully I won’t have any serious problems, but thanks for the heads up.

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      • Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lmao, not trying to jinx myself here, but I break my phones yearly, except this pixel 8 pro, which mostly only has the scratches on it that I got while waiting for the liquid glass screen protector to come in. Yeah, it’s got some since then, but again, I seem to break my phones yearly.

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  • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Here is the video in question.

    Hopefully it stays up. If not, someone might want to push to archive.org / peertube /etc…

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPa8NpmhKM0

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  • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Was it about how to live without Google or how to bypass ads on YouTube?

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    • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      both

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    • B1ackmsth@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The video that was removed talked about blocking ads on YouTube which goes against contract terms for YouTubers. The one about switching away from Google service is still up.

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then the lemmy title is misleading, no? Isn’t that against the rules?

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      • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He shouldn’t have referred to it as “blocking ads.”

        Instead, say that you’ll be explaining how to “preserve privacy” or “uncluttered the viewing experience”, and it would be totally up to interpretation and assumption that he’s actually talking about blocking ads.

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  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Had suspicions with Rossman involved and a quick check of the ltt subreddit means I both need a shower and likely know why it was delisted:

    The issue isn’t “how to live without google”. Plenty of those videos exist

    The issue is encouraging people to use third party apps that violate the TOS and let you watch youtube without ads. That is not “living without google”. That is “You should ‘steal’ from google”

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    • cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They already steal all my personal information for profit. So fuck 'em. I got no sympathy for that company.

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    • _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fuck google, steal from them anyway you can

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    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If YouTube wasn’t infested with ads that start in the middle of videos and force you to watch 2-3 minute ads constantly it wouldn’t even be an issue. Calling it stealing is a bit of a stretch.

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  • CombatWombat1212@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This dude is so smart but has literally the worst vibes I just can’t stand him for no reason lmfao

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    • dumbass@leminal.space ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I fully agree and love what he does for the repair industry, but im with ya on that, I cant stand him either. Its a weird feeling.

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  • ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No way this wasn’t calculated by LTT.

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    • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Although I agree that this content should be up on YT, I wouldn’t be surprised if LLT were well aware that this was a high risk video that could get struck down.

      I hate conspiratorial thinking, but LLT is likely to benefit from this attention, and they have a history prioritizing subscriber counts over getting useful information into the hands of people.

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      • ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’d bet dollars to donuts it was planned. They’re all about views, sponsors, and subs. The “info” they publish is hack at best. They’re entertaining at times but it’s just that, entertainment, not tech news.

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  • dukatos@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The fact Louis had to disable comments on that video tells a lot 😄

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