How did Call of Duty get to this point?

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Buttflapper@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

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Since I’m a WoW addict, naturally I’m a Blizzard fan, of sorts. But my mind is blown every time I see anything from Call of Duty on the launcher. I’ve been really out of the loop, and recently saw this… and I’m shocked. You have to BUY the game for “open beta access”, like how does that make any sense? Also, the general look of the game and its marketing now looks like a $5 ripoff FPS game on Steam… What the heck happened?

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SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
People buy this shit so they make more. Simple as that.

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- cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Blah blah blah, supply and demand.
  
  I swear the less A’ a game has in the context of “AAAA”, “AAA”, etc, the better it is.
  
  In recent years I’ve found more niche or mid sized studios have my interest at heart. The more A’s a game claims to have, the more bullshit predatory crap it has, micro transactions, etc.
  
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PunchingWood@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The term “beta” has been abused for so long that it’s become meaningless in terms of what it actually is supposed to be. It’s just a paid demo and/or early access.

Just look at WoW, they had a “beta” for like 2 or 3 months, and a paid early access package. Adding insult to injury they started patching/nerfing stuff like a day after early access. It’s annoying as fuck that they have many months of “testing” and then fail to fix the blatant issues until it hits live servers and even after the early access period. Everything screams like “should’ve bought the beta and early access, huh?”.

As for CoD looking like a collection of brainrot operators, weapons and themes, I think they are just trying to figure out ways to keep CoD relevant without releasing actual identical games every time, even if it just means changing the theme. And people are still buying it, so why would they stop.

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- bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ve been saying this for years. I remember playing the Planetside 2 beta, it ran for months. It was actually used for bug/stability testing, fixing networking issues, balancing, etc etc etc. It was an incredibly important step in developing a multiplayer game.
  
  These aren’t betas, they’re demos that at most will help them do a limited network stress test. The amount of data they can get from 2 weeks of feedback is nowhere near enough to do any real bug fixes or balance changes.
  
  What’s worse is that now, any game that does have a long alpha or beta period is accused of squatting in early access.
  
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  - PunchingWood@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh man I remember Planetside 2 launch being so insanely laggy and buggy lol
    
    At some point we threw grenades on a giant pile because they just never went off, or sometimes just disappeared as soon as we threw them. I don’t think the devs ever tested that huge influx of players anywhere in the pre-launch stage. It’s hard to predict some things that will go different from testing to live, but man it seems so obvious with large multiplayer titles.
    
    Even WoW still struggled with this, servers becoming laggy and unresponsive even, it’s been better last 2 expansion launches but it’s still not great. And they had over 15 years of data to go on too.
    
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ObsidianZed@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The gameplay has changed so little over the years but that’s because it’s unfortunately pretty solid.

I played a lot when I was younger but stopped because I didn’t have the money, hard drive space, or internet bandwidth to keep up with the new games and updates.

With that said, I actually jumped into this beta since it was included in Game Pass and it reminded me of CoD of my youth.

Will I every give them anymore more money? Nah.

Will I play it some more via Game Pass? Maybe.

My biggest complaint is the ecosystem is cancer. They have CoD HQ that acts as a launcher but can only handle a couple games and if you select to play one of the games it can’t play, it fully closes and launches the game you want to play.

Can you simply download and launch only the game you want to play? Nope.

This is all to get your eyes on as much of their content as possible to really squeeze out those last few dollars.

The amount of players I saw with the skins that cost them $100 minimum was crazy. These are very likely the same people that buy every game every year and are precisely the target demographic they’re marketing towards.

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helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

You have to BUY the game for “open beta access”, like how does that make any sense?

Whole industry has been that way for a long time. Gives them an excuse to ship broken games so when people complain they can say “its a Beta!”.

I’ve seen games stay in “open Beta” for years (looking at you GTFO).

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- bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thats not what’s going on here. CoD has for the past few releases run an open beta for 2 to 3 weeks, a month or two ahead of release. Buying this package lets you into that 2-3 week beta a week early, letting you get 3-4 weeks of playtime. You can still get into this beta for completely free, just wait a week and don’t buy the game.
  
  Not trying to defend Activision here, cause I still think CoD is a shadow of its former self and these “betas” are nothing more than a demo, but people seem to have the wrong idea about how Activision runs them.
  
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hobovision@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That has to be a meme post. Black Ops SIX? You’re joking. This is a picture from 2018.

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- accideath@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Nope. I also totally missed even Black Ops 5 existing. But then again, what I’m looking for in a CoD game (good split screen offline local multiplexer with a decent selection of maps and not too much bullshit) hasn’t really been met since BO3. All newer ones are either online only (in varying degrees of awfulness, ranging from no splitscreen at all to splitscreen with two activision accounts required) and/or have a terrible split screen layout. Haven’t tried WWII though, so far, which might still be good enough (and interesting due to less bullshit than bo3, my current fav that isn’t from the 360/ps3 era)
  
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How is this only blowing your mind now and not the entire past decade or so where this has become the norm for the giant corpo devs like Blizz, EA, and Ubisoft?

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- Buttflapper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Because I haven’t been following AAA for the past decade…?
  
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  - Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That’s a good policy. I highly recommend sticking with it. 🫠
    
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VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
FWIW the open beta will be open, but people who prepurchase get extra skins and early beta access. Activision has been putting anti-consumer features in CoD since Black Ops 3, to my knowledge. That was the first one where you had to roll loot boxes to unlock all the weapons as opposed to just playing MP matches.

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- rorsche@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Advanced warfare set the precedent. Black ops 3 made it slightly less of a slot machine, but it was still garbage.
  
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  - VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh okay! I missed out on Advanced Warfare’s online, going straight from Black Ops II to Black Ops III. I remembered people not liking the boost jumping in Advanced Warfare, but I didn’t realize that’s where all the loot box stuff started. To its credit, I remember playing some splitscreen AW with my brothers, and I believe it had all weapons unlocked offline at least. BO3 didn’t have that, which was a disappointment for me in a rural area without internet.
    
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JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Feels disingenuous to say “open beta” and require a purchase. Just call it beta early access like every other game.

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- lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  “Open beta” lets them erase progress if they want.
  
  “Early access” usually implies that you get a head start on the normies
  
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  - Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Not sure why you got down voted, that is exactly my understanding.
    
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tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I haven’t looked into the beta itself. This particular ad seems to say you can use the exclusive items from the pack in the beta.

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turkalino@lemmy.yachts ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The current COD (MW3/Warzone) is my guilty pleasure. It crashes during 50% of my play sessions, the player/weapon skins are cringe, the battle pass is pushed pretty hard, but somehow I’m able to ignore all of that and have a lot of fun with it. Warzone is my personal favorite battle royale implementation and MW3 is a nostalgia trip with all the remade maps from past games.

Admittedly, half of my enjoyment comes from playing with my clan from the Xbox 360 days and feeling like we’re in high school again, so playing alone might not be so fun

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Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s pretty far from a realistic military shooter at this point, huh?

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- Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They’ve always been more about Hollywood realism than actual realism.
  
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RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Right now it’s open to anyone who pre-ordered or anyone who has game pass. it’s open to everyone for free next week. maybe they should have called it limited instead of open, but it isn’t closed to anyone, anyone can get game pass and play the beta rn so it is technically an open beta.

and why are people playing CoD? because it’s really solid gameplay that recieves weekly updates and events to always keep things fresh. the new movement system in this one is really a game changer and makes the game a lot of fun to play.

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- Dashi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What’s the new movement system in this one?
  
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  - ObsidianZed@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I believe they’re referring to the slide and dive mechanics. AFAIK considering this is the first game I’ve played in awhile, you can now sprint, slide, and dive in any direction.
    
    Think like strafe sprinting and diving around a corner as you turn your aim around behind you to shoot at someone you just dove passed.
    
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HollowNaught@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I have a friend who was really trying to convince me to preorder this garbage

Same guy who refuses to play older games because they “look bad”

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Blxter@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Honestly the skins look better than the shit I saw in the last one like Niki Minaj and shit. I still wouldn’t buy any of them though.

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Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The original one was amazing. I played the entire thing through to the end. So many of the scenes are from real history, that it felt like we were experiencing a part of history. When I watched Saving Private Ryan, I saw many of the same scenes that I had experienced in the game. But with each consecutive release it has become more focused on competitive PVP and selling skins and expansions. It has nothing at all to do with the original game anymore, other than the name, and the fact that they’re both FPS.

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- sparky@lemmy.federate.cc ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  COD 1 & 2 were excellent games. Man, how far they have fallen.
  
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Jackthelad@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
To be fair, you don’t HAVE to buy it to access the beta as it’s open to everyone next weekend.

But yes, betas are now “glorified demos” and have been for a fair few years.

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Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Capitalism

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Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s not really beta quality. I hopped on with my brother just to see if I was interested in the game (we both played black ops, the original back on the PS3). It was actually extremely stable and pretty fun. He noticed a UI glitch but … it’s not like there was even a feedback or bug report button.

It’s just early access with the disclaimer there might be something wrong… Which isn’t that different from buying a release day game anymore unfortunately.

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odium@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
unherd.com/…/is-call-of-duty-a-government-psyop/

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