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You can find the full interview here. Not very long but some interesting titbits on various projects including a new Terminator (he reveals nothing).
lol, honestly respect him for not bending over backwards or giving a “political” response.
Sometimes you just need to tell people to fuck off and suck it up, especially when you’ve got nerds looking for a reason to be angry.
God forbid someone exhibit humility and introspection. Nope, just commit to being right and never listen to anyone.
The Aliens transfer is possibly the best I have ever seen, of any movie. WTF is wrong with these people?
Modern social media gives a huge voice to the dipshits who just want to be mad at something. So they find some miniscule issue they can be made at and social media amplifies it as if it were a legitimate critique.
Most of these types of “complaints” can be safely ignored. Just as Cameron points out here, with no fucks given to their feelings.
5 minutes ago I knew nothing about this, and honestly I don’t have the “discerning eye” necessary to notice these issues even if they did exist.
That being said, I have been looking for something to get mad at…
Cunts that never left Mommy’s basement. Too many people think that their opinions matter.
How much time do you have?
I have no complaints. Was just happy it FINALLY came out in 4K. Was on my wish list for years.
I this the one where they used a really bad AI? Like, True Lies looks awful. Aliens looks ok, but it seems theres nothing new there.
I see images like this and I have no idea what I’m supposed to be upset about.
So what’s wrong with a little grain? off colors? I mean, the audio world is shifting back to vinyl because it is imperfect but unique in a way that you can only appreciate when you hear other versions and dislike them because they don’t “pop, skip, smoosh” the same way as you record does.
But the problem with Cameron is that he’s removing the grain almost completely, using AI to help do it and it’s making the films look worse.
To be fair he’s using it at different levels, Titanic and The Abyss look the best but Aliens and Truth Lies look the worse.
The replies to this post make me think most people haven’t seen the videos showing the hideous face distortions in the latter two.
The vinyl analogy can be used for these 4k remasters, but it’s more akin to using AI to clean up audio in a vinyl recording and adding a bunch of distortion in the process.
Bad question framing and bad answer.
Get a life? It’s your industry, man. And maybe don’t denigrate the people buying your movies. Lots of other studios get this right.
That said, I think the online criticism of True Lies (haven’t watched the Aliens disc yet) is overblown except for maybe 3-4 scenes where it’s super obvious and distracting.
At least The Abyss looked great.
He and his great team did a bad job. 4k is dumb anyway but I want a high Def version of a movie to look like the film being projected directly.
Why is 4K dumb?
They used AI upscaling. Not only it completely defeats the point of a release like this, it looks like a shimmery mess.
Too many Ks. Unless you have a really really huge TV or you sit super close to it, and also have absolutely no vision problems, there’s a pretty good chance you’re not gonna tell the difference between 1080p and 4k.
Doesn’t film have a definition roughly equivalent to 2K?
Not sure why they didn’t just do a digital transfer to 2K.
No. 8 mm is roughly equivalent to 2K. 16 mm 4K, 35 mm around 5-6K, and 70 mm around 6-12K. 35 mm is the most common.
I don’t really think going higher than 1080p really does much for a movie, after that point the finishing returns start to set in unless you have an absolutely giant TV or you’re sitting super close to a still pretty big TV. Maybe for vidya games or something it could make a difference or something filmed in native 4k could potentially look a bit better but especially for something being digitized from a film negative, it can be a choice between keeping analog grit or smoothing it all out digitally and I’d prefer a movie shot on film to continue to look like it was shot on film.
I HATE DENOISING I HATE DENOISING
He’s fine saying that, as long as AI wasn’t used to hallucinate details.
Transcription:
So you’ve also had recently the 4K transfers of Aliens and True Lies that came out. It did get blowback in the fan community, some feeling that the image quality wasn’t as high as they wanted it to be. You obviously have a very high standard. So l’m wondering what you thought?
When people start reviewing your grain structure,
they need to move out of mom’s basement and meet somebody. Right? Im serious. I mean, are you fucking kidding me? I’ve got a great team that does the transfers. I do all the color and density work. I look at every shot, every frame, and then the final transfer is done by a guy who has been with me [for years]. All the Avatar films are done that way. Everything is done that way. Get a life, people, seriously.
Topaz Video AI has a great grain removal feature. I already do this to other upscaled Hollywood junk.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I mean, Cameron is a douche, but he’s right in this case. There’s a lot to complain about with his body of work, but grain levels just aren’t on the list.
_____@lemm.ee 3 months ago
It’s a straw man. A lot of the 4k cameron remasters are not good. Color correction being extremely off being one of the biggest sins.
Also. His argument is awful “my team has done this forever”… Well they’ve done it wrong, guy. Literally have not heard of any other movie getting criticism for a 4k remaster except his
GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 3 months ago
It feels like he’s jumped on the one time the criticism wasn’t that valid, to invalidate all the times legitimate complaints have been raised.
llii@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Who cares about grain levels, it just looks like shit.
snooggums@midwest.social 3 months ago
The comparison images from the link sure seem to show reducing the grain was the right decision, but I haven’t seen it in motion.
el_hache@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They focus on the grain reduction nagging in Aliens when that was not even that big of an issue.
My main problem with these recent 4K releases was True Lies, it has straight up AI hallucinations in it, I really doubt he rewatched the final product at all.
crossover@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The grain isn’t the issue. They are straight up AI upscales filled with artefacts and barely any use of HDR colour capabilities. Fan edits have done better jobs.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 months ago
He made some really good movies barely watchable with AI upscaling. Imagine walking by a bridge construction and you ask the guy responsible why the two ends don’t line up and he says: get a life loser, i build a lot of bridges.