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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • Zehzin@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You got nothing on the 17 square packing

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    • OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can someone explain this?

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      • Enkers@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is the most efficient packing of 17 unit squares inside a square. If you’re asking why it’s like that, that’s above my math proficiency level.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_packing

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      • Artyom@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We’ve figured out optimal packing methods for any number of squares inside a big square. When a number is below and near a square number like 15, you just leave an empty box, but when it’s far from the next square number, you’ll be able to pack them more efficiently than just leaving empty squares around. Turns out this kind of stuff is hilariously hard to prove that it’s the most efficient method.

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      • nephs@lemmygrad.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Mathematics actually hates humanity, and it likes to remind us of it, sometimes. That’s why.

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    • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      xkcd.com/2740

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ?

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    • lemmyng@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_packing

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is about the most efficient way to pack that number of circles. By looking at the bottom row of the 49, you can see that it’s slightly less wide than 7 diameters, because it has 5 circles at the very bottom (taking up 5 diameters of width), but two are slightly raised, which also means they’re slightly inward.

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  • hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How?

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    • magic_lobster_party@kbin.run ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      7 by 7 matrix isn’t the optimal packing. The square shown is slightly smaller than 7 by 7.

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      • hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah. I thought it was about counting. It all makes a lot more sense now. (And it also doesn’t.)

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    • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah it can fit almost 7 in a line in the last panel so theese definitely aren’t the same squares

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      • apotheotic@beehaw.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        These are optimal packings of n circles in a square shaped container

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  • datelmd5sum@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean it makes sense when you think about how the spheres arrange in an infinte square and e.g. 4r square. There has to be some fuckery between the perfect packing and the small square packing. You can see a triangle of perfect packing in the middle of the 49 sphere square, surrounded by garbage.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or, they could do 6x8 with one obviously extra at the end. But this is a funny not a rational thing.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yarr

      Neat spacing leave much gap, patterned mess less space between.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well-put. One perfect pattern at one scale, another perfect pattern at a different scale, and then there has to be a transition between them of optimal steps along the way. I like that.

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  • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Should have used hexagons

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    • nephs@lemmygrad.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The bestagons.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s what she said 😏

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  • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maths is a science now?

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    • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Science is applied math, engineering is applied science, manufacturing is applied engineering, etc. it’s math all the way down.

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      • zarlin@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Relevant XKCD: xkcd.com/435/

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Image

        Math and philosophy are basically interchangeable here.

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    • ogeist@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      always_has_been.jpg

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    • The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yes… www.britannica.com/science/mathematics

      and no… …stackexchange.com/…/is-mathematics-considered-a-…

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Image

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’ve got !mathmemes@lemmy.blahaj.zone for maths but it’s a bit quiet compared to here

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      • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Quality over quantity! 😉

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    • JimSamtanko@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think you forgot the /s

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    • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The study and discovery of mathematics is, yes.

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    • Bertuccio@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Always has been.

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_science

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  • veganpizza69@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is the kind of stuff the timber mafia needs to know so that they can efficiently pack trees and send them to IKEA.

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  • _different_username@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    HCP FTW.

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  • boatswain@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    • Enkers@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think you skipped a row.

      Also, 6*6+7=???

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      • boatswain@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I did yeah; deleted my content almost immediately after posting it because I went to double check. Counting is hard!

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