Because defacing an ancient site has a clear connection to the environment... bunch of fucking self-centered attention-whores.
BBC News - Stonehenge covered in powder paint by Just Stop Oil
Submitted 10 months ago by Flax_vert@feddit.uk to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw44mdee0zzo
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Dendr0@fedia.io 10 months ago
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It’s either this or ineffectual protests that get swept under the rug and ignored. You should be happy that their protest is purely cosmetic too.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Defacing random things that don’t have any connect at all to what you’re protesting only makes you look bad.
Yeah, it got attention. Bad attention.
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
But why Stonehenge? Why not oil company buildings? I believe oil companies generally have buildings. Large buildings. With their names on them.
wewbull@feddit.uk 10 months ago
False choice. Those aren’t the only options. We’re in a election season. Get out there and help convince the public to vote for people who will actually make a difference.
Making noise and demanding things is what children do.
Dendr0@fedia.io 10 months ago
Were I the "protest type", I'd be getting awfully creative with what can be done to the infrastructure of the things I was protesting. Big Oil? Would be a shame if the refineries were to suffer malfunctions... or the trucks/ships to suffer constant breakdowns...
But yeah, instead let's go fuck with something that has no relation and only serves to piss people off - but not in the way you want them pissed off.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 months ago
I’m generally supportive of any and all forms of non-violent protest (by which I mean not harming human life), including these, but let’s not pretend the choice is between “standing around with placards” and “vandalise random artwork & monuments”. Blockading ports exporting coal is an excellent direct protest, or vandalising actual fossil fuel companies’ property in such a way that disrupts their ability to do business. Heck, even the classic “block roads in peak hour” is better than this (just for the love of the gods, don’t disrupt passenger trains or busways).
Don’t get me wrong, this is still ok, and it’s better than nothing at all, but there are more effective ways to protest.
lurch@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
well, at least nothing is reliable and free.
ianovic69@feddit.uk 10 months ago
And that response right there, that’s why we are all fucked.
I read today that major banks are starting to move investments away from fossil fuels. Your mentality has about as much foresight.
“Self-centred,” the fucking irony.
VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Just because you support a cause doesn’t mean you need to support every attention seeking brainrot idiot that uses the cause as an excuse to flaunt their stupidity.
These people are not helping the environment, they’re playing a silly game for attention without caring about the consequences.
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 10 months ago
Any publicity is good publicity, it’s paint, it can be cleaned up. But drilling for fossil fuels, burning shit to get energy, etc. That will leave a mark on the planet for generations, it might even kill us in the long enough run.
araneae@beehaw.org 10 months ago
They are rocks my friend. Rocks. Birds shit on them daily and have for thoudands of years. But go ahead and be mad about the rocks getting cornflower on them. Very good little reactionary Brit.
Ever play a Civilization game where Stone Henge ends up underwater because of the sea rising? Yeah. Thats all our art. All our society.
One thousand shits on Mona Lisa for one saved human life. But we will choose to protect the symbols of capital and status quo.
Enjoying the Gulf Stream collapsing further this summer?
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because defacing an ancient site has a clear connection to the environment… bunch of fucking self-centered attention-whores.
Just Stop Oil said the orange powder paint was cornflour and it would “wash away with rain”.
I wonder how many of your strong opinions are based on things that you don’t even bother to investigate beyond your first impression.
Emperor@feddit.uk 10 months ago
"They are sensitive and they are completely covered in prehistoric markings which remain to be fully studied and any surface damage to the stones is hugely concerning.
“A rich garden of life has grow on the megaliths, an exceptional lichen garden has grown. So it’s potentially quite concerning.”
This is important - they aren’t just a bunch of old rocks, they develop a “varnish” and an ecosystem that can protect them.
They say it’s just cornflour and will wash off in the rain but people tend not to coat ancient monuments in cornflour, so we don’t really know what the effect might be.
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
"They are sensitive and they are completely covered in prehistoric markings which remain to be fully studied and any surface damage to the stones is hugely concerning.
Bullshit. There is next to no other historic site that has been studied in greater detail. If no scientist up until now has created a detailed map of what is to find on those stones, then frankly, it’s their own fault.
If anything, they should be concerned about acidic rain caused by air pollution. But you don’t hear much about that, now do you?
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 10 months ago
Yeah. There's absolutely no way that they have not yet fully digitalized whatever is on them. And if they didn't, then they're huge fucking morons.
rah@feddit.uk 10 months ago
they should be concerned about acidic rain caused by air pollution. But you don’t hear much about that, now do you?
+10 billion Internet points to this man
saltesc@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Wait wait wait, hold your horses. Do you mean to tell me, that the oil industry doesn’t care for this protest, or any protest for that matter? I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you. It’s almost as if this protest wasn’t meant to impress the oil exec-types…
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 10 months ago
Almost like the protest isn’t aimed at oil industry shills and instead at politicians.
steeznson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This group undermine and delegitimate other climate activist groups by association
Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Hard disagree. As far as I’m aware, everything they’ve done so far is attention-grabbing and harmless. All the paintings were behind glass, and the stuff here is water soluble.
flamingos@feddit.uk 10 months ago
How? Is your support for not going extinct really contingent on your personally feelings about a particular activist group?
steeznson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I disagree with their evaluation of the magnitude of climate change catastrophe affecting our lives. There isn’t going to be a Day After Tomorrow “extinction event”. Instead climate change is more insidious and will initially affect people who do not live in the West (as it is already doing). We are going to have global crises due to climate change but it’s not going to be on the same level as, say, a Mutually Assured Destruction scenario with nuclear weapons.
They have also failed to convince the majority of the rest of the public that it will be an ‘extinction event’. Since democracy has not got the result they want they are pursuing anti-democratic means of forcing their agenda onto news segments with stunts that poison the well for other - less extreme - climate change activists.
YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Disruptive protests help activists causes:
rah@feddit.uk 10 months ago
other climate activist groups
What other climate activist groups?
steeznson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Extinction Rebellion would be the famous example of a group that has publically distanced themselves from JSO’s methods. They believe in protest but simultaneously are wary of alienating people by taking their stunts too far.
Actually I had a friend from uni who was in XR and he helped organise a protest at Canning Town tube station where they clambered ontop of the train in rush hour to try to stop it. He was saying later that he thought they probably made a bad call picking that specific part of the city.
kralk@lemm.ee 10 months ago
The Tories want to destroy Stonehenge to build a motorway so let’s not pretend it’s sacrosanct now
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Is this hyperbole or literally true?
Iceblade02@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So you mean the Tories are also assholes? Tell me something I didn’t know
lurch@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
the world feels like 75% assholes rn ngl
Zip2@feddit.uk 10 months ago
They’re going to be fucking annoyed when they’re told there’s no oil there.
blackluster117@possumpat.io 10 months ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t it come out a while back that Just Stop Oil is actually bankrolled by some oil company and is essentially meant to create a false narrative against actual climate protestors? Am I misremembering?
theo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They are funded by an organisation called Climate Organisation Fund of which is funded by someone called Aileen Getty who’s family own Getty Oil.
Whether or not they are wanting to create a false narrative is questionable. I personally don’t think so, but who knows…
kralk@lemm.ee 10 months ago
No, that’s totally made up 🤣 where did you hear it?
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Some rich person who doesn’t like her family getting their money from oil and is trying to do something good instead is one if the people funding them afaik
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Cunts
10_0@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Maybe running them over isn’t so bad if it means keeping the country together
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 10 months ago
They’re mostly toffs. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a conservative movement to make climate change protesters look bad
rah@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Not as disgraceful as awarding oil drilling licenses to companies your family is invested in.
There is no damage.
Not as outrageous as forcefully replacing local Labour candidates with his choices.
Not as pathetic as Labour’s climate policies.
Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Did any of them comment on the reason for the protest, or just the act itself? I don’t want to see things like stonehenge or priceless art getting fucked up, but I am OK with more things being fucked up if that is what it takes… I’m fully expecting environmental extremism to become a thing in the next few years, as the situation will get worse and these sort of protests haven’t achieved anything.
rah@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Pro-tip: if you have questions raised by an article’s headlines, read the article.
“Just Stop Oil said the motivation behind the incident was to demand the next UK government end the extraction and burning of oil, gas and coal by 2030.”
wewbull@feddit.uk 10 months ago
It’s not what it takes. It turns people against the cause.