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- Comment on Revealed: Banking giant threatened to leave UK over mooted tax increase; JP Morgan Chase wrote to Rachel Reeves to lobby against rumoured banking surcharge rise ahead of autumn budget 1 week ago:
Why would JP Morgan Chase, or any bank, leaving the UK be bad?
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
Asking to reference a lack of ambiguity
I haven’t asked to reference a lack of ambiguity, I’ve asked to reference “them” seeing things the way you do.
You haven’t provided any reference to back up what you’re saying.
After I have posted multiple explanations
As I said, your explanations are irrelevant to me. The only thing that will convince me is some other source which clearly shows that the agreement is referring to domestic sales. Without that, all I see is noise.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
I ment you are seeing ambiguity that is not there.
I disagree.
The rest of the media and even fararge in another news article last night.
I haven’t seen any of that. Other people haven’t experienced the same things you have. Other people don’t have the same knowledge you do. That’s why it’s on you to back up what you’re saying by showing others what you experienced (read, watched, whatever) so that they can verify that what you’re saying is true. It isn’t on other people to experience their life the way you experience yours and you can’t assume that they do.
They see no abniguity in this meaning
Reference?
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
And you you did suggest a meaning, when you openly interpreted the article as a good benefit of Brexit.
I initially interpreted the article differently to you but I didn’t make any explicit suggestion of what “dynamic alignment on EU food standards” means. You did and continue to.
So you invested that meaning to make your rather pathetic point about the deal matching some Brexit benefit.
I don’t even understand what you’re claiming here. I haven’t made any point about the deal “matching” some brexit benefit, whatever that means.
I made a very clear pretty close to ELI5 maybe 10.
I’m not asking for you to explain anything. I’m expecting you to back up what you’re saying with references to information elsewhere. This is how rigorous debate and communication works. This is basic stuff. If you can’t back up what you’re saying then don’t bother saying anything, you’re just making noise.
Unless you have some source which clearly states that “dynamic alignment on EU food standards” relates to domestic sales then to me, what you’re saying is just an unverified guess. An opinion. Of no value. Noise.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
You are asking for ambiguity
Eh?
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
You have to be pretty fucking stupid to keep insisting that dose not relate to domestic sales.
I haven’t insisted that.
What the fuck else do you think standards aligned actually means.
I’m not making any claim about what it means, you are. It’s on you to show that what you’re saying is true.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
Alignment of UK food standards.
Doesn’t contain the words “domestic sales” and is open to interpretation.
Means our own standards must continue to meet the EUs.
How have you determined that? I couldn’t find any explanation of what this means, or the text of the agreement.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
Yes it dose just not in ELI5 language.
I think you’re confusing “ELI5 language” and “clear, unambiguous language”.
Alignment of on EU food standards clearly states our own standards must match the EUs.
I disagree.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 1 week ago:
You know all of the promises that Boris Johnson the enormously deceitful individual gave.
No. I didn’t pay any attention to the brexit campaigning. I’d been arguing for leaving the EU for years before all that nonsense happened. Why on Earth anyone would pay any attention to anything Johnson says, ever, is beyond me.
How are we better out of the EU than we are in it if our biggest trading partner remains the EU
There’s more to life and government than just trade. If you want to know some of my arguments for why we’re better off out of the EU, I’ll repurpose a previous comment:
For a start it means that the structure of the government better reflects the concerns of the population. The EU never really made much of a dent in the consciousness of Britons. I expect the number of citizens who knew the name of their MEP off the top of their head would be dwarfed by the number of citizens who knew the name of their MP. This is in comparison to continental countries, particularly in my mind Germany, where the EU, EU political parties and MEPs are very much present in the minds of the electorate. At least, that was my experience.
Also, in my view the EU is quite undemocratic. The separate Council, Commission and Parliament are an affront. Especially the fact that the Parliament, which represents the electorate, does not have the power to introduce legislation. The people are an inconvenient afterthought in the EU power structure. Here’s Yanis Varoufakis when he was finance minister for Greece back when they had their economic meltdown, talking about the impending referendum on whether to accept European proposals regarding Greece’s debt: [in the event that the referendum accepts the European proposals] “I am not going to impede its progress through parliament. This is my commitment to democracy and my commitment to the people, that I have entrusted with the decision, with the verdict of yes/no, or no, in a way that has incensed my colleagues in the Euro group who don’t believe that ‘such complex matters’, as I’ve been told, ‘should be put to common folk’.” – youtu.be/OmqnYHmRg48?t=625 That, to me, is the EU. The British people are better off out of it.
EU Regional Development Funds are another horror. They’re run by unelected bureaucrats, stepping on the toes of existing, democratically elected regional institutions like… councils. Instead of giving hundreds of millions to councils for development projects, or even creating larger regional institutions with democratically elected leadership, someone thought it would be a good idea to give those millions to unelected bureaucrats to spend in the same area. I’m still mystified as to how this ever came to pass. Brexit couldn’t come soon enough.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
That doesn’t mention domestic sales.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
we’re not exactly living in the utopian society that we were promised
I’ve no idea what promises you’re referring to.
If anything brexit has proven to be as disastrous as everyone who opposed it predicted.
I’ve no idea what predictions you’re referring to.
The brexit voters are utterly unprepared to accept they made a mistake
I don’t see how voting for brexit was a mistake. Again, the UK is out of the EU. Seems successful to me.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
I can’t see any mention of domestic sales, could you quote the part you’re referring to?
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
also on items we sell to ourselves
You’re claiming that the deal with the EU contains clauses which obligate the UK to use the EU’s rules for food sold domestically in the UK?
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
The Brexit faithful will never stop believing and inventing new reasons it failed.
What are you talking about, “failed”? The UK is not a member of the EU anymore.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
By following EU rules on the items we sell.
On items we sell to the EU. Critical omission.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
Maybe you use a VPN? Maybe you clicked “Accept” by accident once? Maybe the paywall is limited to particular networks? etc., etc.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
who fucked us all over in the first place
Brexit was money well spent as far as I’m concerned. Fuck the EU.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
They refuse access in the UK unless you permit tracking cookies or pay them.
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
Paywall-freeL archive.is/0CHsG
- Comment on Deal with EU will make food cheaper and add £9bn to UK economy, says No 10 2 weeks ago:
Oh look! We can make beneficial treaties with the EU without being a member! Yay brexit!
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- Comment on Drought conditions already hitting UK crop production, farmers say 2 weeks ago:
I think it will be a slow, drawn out but painful decline.
Can I ask what’s made you think that?
- Comment on The NHS gave £330 million contract to Palantir to build an NHS data platform. Well we've found out that most English hospitals aren't using it. 2 weeks ago:
That’s because the important bit is the “gave £330 million to Palantir” and not the “NHS data platform”. Palantir execs are laughing, NHS managers are paying their mortgages, all is well. Where’s the problem?
- Comment on Drought conditions already hitting UK crop production, farmers say 2 weeks ago:
I don’t think we can predict it
Ummm…
I believe the decline will happen in our lifetimes
…that’s a prediction :-)
Here’s mine:
First famine: 2028
World reaching half 2025 population: 2031
Year brexit becomes irrelevant: 2028
- Comment on Drought conditions already hitting UK crop production, farmers say 3 weeks ago:
None of us can predict that
Sure we can. A prediction is stating what we think will happen, not stating what will happen.
It will be gradual, and we will suffer a painful decline long before other countries in mainland Europe
What do you mean by “long”?
- Comment on Drought conditions already hitting UK crop production, farmers say 3 weeks ago:
it will be gradual rather than instantaneous
Of course it won’t be “instantaneous” but I still can’t see how brexit will have an impact. The people who experience the first famine will be the same ones who experience the death of billions. Brexit will mean nothing.
I’m curious, would you be willing to put some dates to your expectations?
- Year of first famine.
- Year that population reaches half of 2025 population.
- Year that brexit ceases to be relevant to living people.
- Comment on Drought conditions already hitting UK crop production, farmers say 3 weeks ago:
When we’re facing food shortages around the world, the UK will suffer before others.
Firstly, this doesn’t follow from what preceded it. States in the EU aren’t the only states on the planet that export food.
Secondly, I think I see what you’re trying to say: you think that as the planet slides into famine, the UK will be worse off compared to EU states in particular because during the slide into death, the slope will be ever so slightly steeper than some countries in the EU.
- Comment on Drought conditions already hitting UK crop production, farmers say 3 weeks ago:
we will be the first to suffer
Uhh… eh? What do you mean?
- Comment on Drought conditions already hitting UK crop production, farmers say 3 weeks ago:
countries can sell to their neighbours
They can’t sell food they don’t have. How can you still be thinking that climate change is going to be like a temporary blip in food supply? Don’t you understand that we’re all fucked? You really think that Brexit and all the rest of the bureaucratic nonsense people have considered to be important up until now will mean anything when half the population of the planet is starving to death? Don’t you get where we’re headed?
- Comment on Rightwing populists will keep winning until we grasp this truth about human nature 3 weeks ago:
A click bait headline would also be “Rightwing populists will keep winning until we grasp this truth about human nature”.