I mean, I don’t partake but isn’t it the same as saying mustard, broccoli, cauliflower and a dozen other things are the same?
Cannabis
Submitted 6 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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Zehzin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It would be the same as saying there is only one species of broccoli, Brassica oleracea.
NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 6 months ago
And redwoods
idiomaddict@feddit.de 6 months ago
REDWOODS ARE BRASSICA???I feel very dumb, but I’m glad I checked before posting
fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 months ago
Rubisco@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
“What’s with all the files named after cannabis strains on the gcms and lcms computers?”
“I was making a point.”Yokozuna@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Right there with you. I got a good giggle out of this.
stembolts@programming.dev 6 months ago
Idk wtf that cat is but I’m on team cat.
Fuck lemmings, worst thing to happen to Lemmy!
JoYo@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
me when weed smokers are talking about magic mushroom “strains”.
Dasus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
These are pretty different though, as cannabis has literally dozens of different cannabinoids and terpenes, but “magic mushrooms” refers to psilocybin shrooms, which all have psilocybin and psilocin in varying amounts.
Cannabis relies on the entourage effect.
JoYo@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
“magic mushrooms” refers to psilocybin shrooms
Spotted the weed smoker.
SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 6 months ago
And there’s only one species of wild cabbage, Brassica oleracea. Get out of here with that “broccoli”, “kale”, “cabbage” or “brussel sprouts” nonsense!
ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 6 months ago
“broccoli”, “kale”, “cabbage” or “brussel sprouts”
Well of course, they are domestic cabbages.
huf@hexbear.net 6 months ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea
your point?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 months ago
Damnit, it’s always brassica
higgsboson@dubvee.org 6 months ago
MFW a mofo pretends there is a universally accepted definition of “species.”
RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Obviously life will refuse to be neatly classified, but that doesn’t mean people smarter than us won’t still try to do it in order to better understand the world.
higgsboson@dubvee.org 6 months ago
… yes? Did you not read your own link? There are several definitions of “species” offered.
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
What’s wrong with the definition about being able to make fertile offspring?
The_v@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Life is much more complicated than the middle school definition. Some of the more interesting species are “sterile” crosses that have overcome the sterility. For example the ancestry of wheat.
Wheat is mostly a hexaploid aka 6 copies of each chromosome. It arose from a triploid interspecific cross (triploids are always sterile) that spontaneously doubled (hexaploids are fertile).
As a hexaploid it can be crossed to diploid rye to produce fertile offspring called triticale (tetraploid). Crossing triticale to either wheat or rye creates sterile offspring (pentaploid & triploid)
So are they all one species because they can sometimes produce fertile offspring?
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
is this a ligma joke that i’m too high to understand
UncleBadTouch@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
this is actually one thing that has pissed me off for 30+ years. to be fair, there is 2-3 types, one for smoking, one for hemp products (non smoking/not getting high) and the wild kind.
aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Kinda sorta a bit different but you got the gist down close enough. 🙏
Cannabaceae is the plants family which is good shit btw 🤩🧐
There are two ways of thinking I’m aware of. It’s all cannabis sativa. Or. It’s cannabis sativa, Cannabis indica and cannabis ruderalis as the three sub species.
Ruderalis is literally ditch weed in that it grows randomlyin the ditch’s around midwestern America, near where “hemp” was produced previously, and produces nothing smokeable or enjoyable I’m aware of.
Hemp is just a governmental term applied to the cannabis plant to denote it has less than .3% THC making it non psychoactive. This is currently heavily abused in the USA as THCa, the naturally occurring acid that grows on cannabis, melts or converts into THC with heat. And the law seemingly defines it into as THC being over .3% not THCa. Weird loophole.
JoYo@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
you forgot the one for spicing ales.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
The hops used for brewing beer belong to the same family as marijuana and have a similar alkaloid, the hop harvesters at the end of the day can confirm this.
Classy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Hackberry trees (Celtis occidentalis) are also in the same family!
littlebluespark@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sounds like a 90s diesel strain that’ll have you coughing your balls off.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Can anyone explain ?
rockSlayer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence, as well as hemp. The meme is pointing out how we talk about sativa, indica, and hybrids as completely different plants, rather than variations of the same species
Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
But each strain is different, right? Like how a chihuahua and a German shepherd are both dogs, but vastly different.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Cannabis sativa is the same plant for every single strain of cannabis in existence
This is incorrect. Cannabis is the family designation where Sativa, Indica and Ruderalis are the species designations.
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 6 months ago
What do you mean by “same plant”? They are different species.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The post is wrong. Indica is a species of Cannabis.
Cannabis is the family, while Indica or Sativa are the species.
EnderofGames@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
The part directly above the species is the genus. Family comes after that, and is Cannabaceae in this case.
Kroxx@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Yeah but the original cannabis indica described has none of the physical characteristics of what it does today, there is not a genetic difference between sativa and indica that is sold in the cannabis market today.
worldwidewave@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As I read it, it’s basically saying there’s only one kind of red wine: red. You’re right, but you’re ignoring all of the subcategories that the typical consumers use to talk about it.
Weed smokers typically consider strains to be either Indica or Sativa, but there’s a whole debate about if those are real differences at all. The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa, hence why this statement is true.
Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The plant itself is called Cannabis Sativa,
The plant’s family is Cannabis. The plant’s species is either Indica, Ruderalis or Sativa.
pudcollar@hexbear.net 6 months ago
I think the confusion is that there are two well-known subgroups of cannabis sativa, indica and sativa (ruderalis is more obscure). So the species and subgroup have the same name.
belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 6 months ago
And yet they are very very different each strain. Doesnt matter if “indica” is fake, they test how it smoked and declare it that type and it is a meaningful difference.
Things marked sativa give me headaches inevitably. Hybrids and indica marked bud doesnt. There is a difference in how breeds effect you, despite incorrect colloquial naming.
Umbrias@beehaw.org 6 months ago
In reality testing shows that named strains are not a thing, the testing shows THC and cbd content among things like tannins occasionally, but the only proven relevance to anything is THC.
“Incorrect colloquial naming” is an understatement, genetically weed strains as they are named don’t exist at all.
frezik@midwest.social 6 months ago
That said, stuff labeled indica on the package may have been formulated to be more relaxing by the manufacturer. Such as by having more CBD and less THC.
suction@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I lost 3 years of my life to Cannabis
misterundercoat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yarr, sorry to hear that matey.
KrankyKong@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That psychological addiction can be rough, fam. It affects some more than others. I’ve quit more than a couple times. Hope you’re doing well and holding strong.
suction@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The Cannabis wasn’t the problem mate, it was the 4 year CBD program that was meant to get us off it!
Socsa@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Cannabis ate my dog, and farted on my sister.
Spiral@lemm.ee 6 months ago
And another four to the cbd that was supposed to get me aff it.
suction@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh hi Jacqueline!
llamajester421@kbin.social 6 months ago
Is this ...bioessentialism?
sirico@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I guess people that keep thinking this are going The wrong way down a one way street
MBM@lemmings.world 6 months ago
Ah… Benny Harvey RIP. Gone but not forgotten
Nacktmull@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So indica is just a sativa variation?
beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Found the upvotes farmer 😜 … I’m just kidding. But yeah it should have been obvious how much response this would get
fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 months ago
can’t resist shameless b8. also it’s interesting. :)
hperrin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
There is only one species of dog, canis familiaris. I still wouldn’t call a chihuahua and a great dane the same thing.
Dasus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Huh, last I looked somewhere I’m pretty sure indica was considered a subspecies, not a distinct species. Thanks for the update or correction, either or.
Oh wait no I should’ve known, it’s something we’re still pretty much arguing over. That is whether sativa and indica (and ruderalis) are both suspecies, or whether they’re all their own species in the same family.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4604179/#:~:….
And dog breeds are still (at least in the vast majority) not even different subspecies, just different breed (variants of the same species)
Indica is technically “cannabis sativa indica” and then a strain would technically be written fully as “C. sativa var indica, ‘Indian Kush’” or “C. sativa indica, var ‘Northern Lights’” or something to that effect. But also sativa would be like “C. sativa sativa, var. ‘Durban Poison’”
This is all up for debate, I’m not saying there’s consensus on what is or isn’t correct. Just inputting a lil content to Lemmy
stonerboner@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
Cannabis Ruderalis has entered the chat as the third currently recognized species, unique for its auto-flowering quality.