Comment on Cannabis

• RadicalEagle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They are the same species by the scientific definition. The meaning of the word “species” has become diluted over time as it was adopted by more people and misused, just like all language.

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  • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They are the same species by the scientific definition

    Seems there there is very much a debate about it and they are either considered seperate species, subspecies or a single one.

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    • vaquedoso@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s really no debate about it.

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      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My point exactly. Which makes this post (and some of the comment) asserting that it’s certainly a single species quite confusing. Seems it’s quite far from certain.

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• rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, they’re not. Industrial hemp is also Cannabis sativa.

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• Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis)

  Species[1]

  Cannabis sativa L.
  Cannabis indica Lam.
  Cannabis ruderalis Janisch
  

  Taxonomy is difficult, and we're still figuring it all out.

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  • valaramech@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would, however, point out that the specific page on Cannabis sativa lists them as subspecies. So, it appears there isn't even consensus on Wikipedia.

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    • Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In mycology one will hear references to 'lumpers' and 'splitters' taxonomically. That is, do we lump these specimens together, or do we split them into difference groupings. When we look at the genetics, it has been the case that we find that those critters that appear similar may not be those that are related by genes/ evolution. And of course by "we" I mean the larger scientific community, not me and the mouse in my pocket. Oh wait, that's not a mouse it's a shrew. ;-)

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  • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My point exactly. That’s why I find it a bit strange that the post and some comments here act like it’s a certainty.

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• TheTetrapod@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here. If they can breed and their offspring is fertile, they’re the same species.

  QED, Spock is sterile.

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  • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here

    And here I was thinking about looking into some of the papers for the actual reasons … but turns out those stupid scientists just wasted their time because they forgot about middle school. Fools!

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    • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I kind of thought the Spock thing would convey I wasn’t 100% serious in my reply to a weed shitpost.

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