Daily discussion thread: 🥬 Tuesday, April 30, 2024

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• Gibsonisafluffybutt@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Feeling better which is nice. Still going to spend the day in bed though. At least I can get out and go get a coffee without passing out.

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• PeelerSheila@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Watched 4 corners about the school refusal last night and it resonated very strongly with me. Especially the lady who said, “If tough love worked my kid would be at school.” The parents who accused their kids of being lazy, who opened the curtains and pulled the blankets off their kids, who’ve shouted and tried to push and push… yeah I’ve done some bad parenting in the past and I’m not proud. I had to question where this was coming from within me (thanks mum and dad!) and be flexible as a parent and completely change strategies.

  I’ve scheduled a meeting with Elder’s school later this week to develop a plan to get him back to school, starting with a reduced hours timetable. I’ll be asking for extra tutoring for him to help him get up to speed. He’s basically missed the whole year at this point. Whatever they can offer, I’m going to push for, and more. The squeaky wheel gets the grease!

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  • StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wrote about that article yesterday lol; I was a school refuser.

    You’re doing great! Advocating for your kid! Seriously, school refusing isn’t a comment on your parenting, and you’re going about this all the right ways

    Sending my love and support to you and your kids 💜💜💜

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    • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I didn’t see your comment yesterday, but I just read it and it resonated with me. I also wrote about it, although I left my comment over on the news thread in c/Australia

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  • CEOofmyhouse56@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wishing you all the best on this fight. ♥

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    • PeelerSheila@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thankyou ♥️

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  • SituationCake@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t have kids and I watched it and was saddened by the experience these kids are having. I wonder why it’s on the rise. I think more proper research is needed. As someone who went to school decades ago, to me it seems like school is now a lot freerer and adaptive with more supports available than ever before, but it’s not working or having the intended effect? I imagine it’s so tough for the parents. And if a kid falls behind at school it probably just makes it even more terrifying to go, because now they might also feel shame that they aren’t at same level as the other kids. Is catch up tutoring available for those kids? Peeler you are doing great to be advocating for your kids, they are lucky to have you looking out for them.

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    • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Felt a bit insulting seeing the “the federal government has stated they will consider further research into school refusal” at the end of the 4C episode. It’s not the fucking metro tunnel, you don’t need a business case. You see a problem, you don’t know why it’s a problem or how to fix it, you order some research to figure out the root causes of the problem, and then you try to solve the problem. It’s not rocket science

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    • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wonder why it’s on the rise

      No fear on consequences

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  • TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Tipping this is one of those things where I bet everyone is an expert until they actually experience it, and realize their preconceived ideas amount to approx. jack shit in the face of a stressed or defiant kid/teen.

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    • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      and when law enforcement is called then often the newspapers are called and the kid who was making life hell for other students and teachers and is ruining the education and life opportunities of other kids becomes the “victim”

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  • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    OH! I forgot that came out last night. I’ll have to try and watch it today.

    Did it cover anything the article didn’t, or was it essentially just the article in video form?

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    • PeelerSheila@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The article basically covered the essentials but the show fleshed out the human experience side of things a bit more. It was great to hear what the kids had to say about it all. Can recommend.

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  • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wrote about my brother. School failed him and over the decades I’ve had a lot of time to read up on schools and to think.

    Schools aren’t a democracy and they shouldn’t be run like one. They are a place where the powerful, adult teachers and staff, look after the weak. Schools have a duty to protect the weak from the predations of those who are more powerful or stronger.

    Schools have the power to act to protect the weak but the schools are too cowardly, letting themselves be intimidated by enablers and perpetrators of abuse.

    Schools should not administer justice, if a crime happens they should call the police. Parents should call the police too. Too often schools don’t want to involve the law but this only plays into the hands of perpetrators.

    The DoE knows all this and has guidelines and rules but cowardly school admin don’t follow laws and regs. They prefer that kids suffer, that perps get away with it than deal with hassles ie doing what has to be done to protect kids.

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    • RustyRaven@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not just indifference, schools often create conditions that encourage bullying and perpetrate it themselves. Ranging from little things like letting kids pick teams and groups, to big things like dress up days - which I’m sure are great fun for kids who have creative parents that make them fabulous costumes to show off, but for the kids who don’t have any support and are left trying to cobble together something on their own with no resources those sorts of things are a nightmare. It would be so simple to improve these things with a bit of thought. Change the way teams are selected. Don’t allow any assignments or activities that rely on parental involvement or having any particular type of family. If schools want to do dress up days they can do it as a group activity, costumes can be a shared resource not platform for kids to see who has the best parents.

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    • SituationCake@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This reminds me of a conversation with a colleague who was a seasoned ex teacher. They said that their options to address anti social behaviours in the classroom had been declining and as a result the behaviours increased, with some kids seeing the opportunity to dish out disruption and abuse with no consequences. Parents would always defend the kids. Parents of the victims forced to change schools rather than the bullying being addressed. Anyway they quit teaching. I imagine the stress for teachers is fuelling some of the teacher shortage. The bad behaviour affects them too.

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• Gibsonisafluffybutt@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Got offered a role in Sydney for insane money. Can’t do it though, spewing it’s not Melbourne based.

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  • just_kitten@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Argh! Would you not consider moving at all? (I mean don’t, Sydney sucks, but insane money is tempting…)

    There’s gotta be a good role coming for you soon! The fact that you’re still getting offers is 100% worth keeping in mind

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    • Gibsonisafluffybutt@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly I’m thinking about it. Hopefully they can let me commute once a fortnight and do the rest remote… But you’re right, getting considered for these roles is a great sign!

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• bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  my potato broccoli cheese soup was most motivating

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  • just_kitten@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    please may I have some of your motivation to make dinner

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    • bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      have the soup for dinner instead

      🧅🥕🥦🥔🧀🥛🥣

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• melbaboutown@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Stomach rant

  Ugh. I’ve been in severe pain for so long and have barely been able to eat. I really miss it. My current gastros haven’t been taking me seriously so I’m waiting on new ones. However I’ve just got a new physio with experience in rare disabilities and they’ve floated a potential cause to explore.

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• useless_modern_god@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It had only been around 6 hours into a cross country trip. Slow hum of the desert and a lonely dark highway road made the travel quite boring. Since my mate was driving, I nodded off a bit and fell into an uncomfortable sleep. I remember being catapulted out of a dream to see we had crossed the painted line and into the oncoming traffic.

  “What are you doing!?!” I shouted !

  “I’m CRASHING!!” replied the driver, as he over corrected and sent us off-road. The vehicle flipped several times and landed butter side up. We had come to rest before I fully realised what transpired. Car was totaled.

  We both walked away unscathed and purchased airline tickets the next day. We needed to be en route.

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  • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    🫨

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  • Catfish@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Question: who butters their car?

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    • useless_modern_god@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have a Kerrygold fetish

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• TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  settled on pumpkin soup for lunch. It was ok, but for 14 bucks for a bowl of soup and 2 pieces of multigrain bread I can probably make it at home cheaper and have more serves.

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  • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good soup is not cheap to make, minestrone especially. And then there is time and rent.

    The big problem is our wages have stagnated so much the past few decades everyday items are becoming unaffordable.

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    • TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know, pumpkin isn’t too expensive on special. Chicken isn’t too bad when drumsticks are on special. A poor soup is still pretty cheap. But a fancy one with tons of ingredients? absolutely.

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  • PeelerSheila@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The price of soup is outta control! I paid $15 recently for a very average minestrone (honestly, the canned one’s better). Always wanted to run a business that was just soups and stews and nothing else, done well and cheap.

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    • MeanElevator@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Seinfeld may have made an episode about something like that.

      If you want to make it unique, have an option to serve it trenchers (bread bowls). Eat the soup, eat the bowl after

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    • Thornburywitch@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Would 100% be a customer of such a business.

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  • CEOofmyhouse56@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I used to freeze leftover soup in containers then I worked out it was easier to buy those sistema cups with a lid when they’re half price and freeze soup in those. Always handy to have on days like this.

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      fun fact: reusable breast milk freezer bags don’t have to just be for boob milk. Great for portioning out little side soups.

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    • TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      yeah I’m not confident I’d trust a cup like that in my bag if I’m being totally honest. But i guess if its frozen its less likely to be a disaster.

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• calhoon2005@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Finally found a really good astronomy podcast - AstronomyCast - and it has hundreds of episodes. I tried StarTalk and sorta hated it because I find deGrasse Tyson to be a bit of a dick. I’m up to episode 25 - how galaxies are formed. Thinking about this stuff blows my mind all the time.

  Especially the mind-blowing scale of everything - puts it all in perspective really

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• wscholermann@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So looks like Bonza airline is going to go bust. Honestly apart from flying routes without the required critical mass, maybe if their branding wasn’t a complete joke with cringe Aussie jingoism they might have done better. Just sayin.

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  • tone212_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not a good news story, we need more competition in domestic aviation. But I feel like Bonza never stood a chance. Strange route choices and being forced to book via an app, among other issues.

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  • TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TBH, I’d fly with Satan Airlines if they were a viable 3rd party competitor. But Satan airlines needs to be going where I’m going. Bonza never did.

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    • wscholermann@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe I should start an airline called Jezebel Airways.

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    • Llabyrinthine@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But Satan airlines needs to be going where I’m going.

      Hahaha. Pretty much where most of us are headed…

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  • Llabyrinthine@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just didn’t feel like they had a very good model to begin with. I had to download their app to look to at their availability and pricing. That didn’t help. The app was terrible.

    I can’t remember what happened to Tiger Air, but that was okay as far as that lasted for budget airlines. I don’t remember it being as hard to find or book a flight with them.

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• melbaboutown@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  lol. I’m getting pushed out by a cuddly little bed hog

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  • Gibsonisafluffybutt@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When I dare move mine, the look of utter hurt and contempt makes me feel so bad…

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  • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Those damn bed hogs are lucky they’re cute.

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• calhoon2005@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Minicalhoon2 was taught the Dm cord by her uke teacher today. He called it the saddest chord.

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• StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The news has been so triggering, but I keep reading and commenting and getting into silly Internet fights like an idiot.

  personal and raw feelings>

  The endless conflicts, the brutalisation of minorities, the disgusting vitriol that internet boys perpetuate, the trolls, the abuse of women, the not listening to women, the pain of a lost childhood, the pain of lost 20s. I can feel my soul spiralling, my brain shutting down like a rusted motor, sputtering, coughing up a malaise that falls heavy upon my heart and my stomach. A suffocating veil over my eyes, so all I can see is the hate and the pain, and all I can feel is loss. I’ve grieved so much, about so much, how can I keep grieving? What more can I lament? Must I be so sensitive, so raw, as to feel a slight scratch as an open wound, gushing my energy out into a cold, deaf void?

  I must take a break, focus on something else entirely.

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  • Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I must take a break, focus on something else entirely.

    yes

    I’ve stopped listening to news and news based podcasts and psych podcasts , it is taking a while to recalibrate my focus but I can already feel myself be less anxious

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  • Llabyrinthine@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I absolutely fell down a rabbit-hole the other week. It’s… not great. The feeling of helplessness does not very good things to my soul, so I have move my attentions elsewhere.

    It’s so easy to spiral into despair. Got to take care of yourself.

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• bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Breakfast 🍏🍎🍐🍊🍋🍈🫐🍓🍇🍉🍌🍒🍑🥭🍍🥥🥦🥑🫛🍆🍅🥝🥬🥒🌽🥕🥐🍠🫚🥔🧅🥯🍞🥖🥨🧀🧇🥞🧈🍳🥚🥓🥩🍗🍖🫓🍕🍟🍔🌭🥙🧆🌮🌯🥗🍲🍜🍝🥘🍛🍣🍱🥟🦪🍥🍘🍚🍙🐠🍤🪼🦀🐙 🍗🥮🍢🍡🍧🍰🧁🥧🍦🍨🎂🍮🍭🍬🍫🥜🌰🍪🍿🍯🥛☕️🍵🍺🍶🥤🧋🧃🥂🍷🥃🍸🍹🧉🔋o

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  • RustyRaven@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A mixture of sugar and used coffee grounds, sprinkled on bread. Like some sort of demented fairy bread. Maybe we could call it goblin bread?

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    • PeelerSheila@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d hate to see my teeth after that 😬

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    • bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      🍬⌛️
      🍞

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  • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Um… Can I have something that’s like… Not used coffee grounds?

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    • bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      🥓🍳🧀🌯☕️

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  • useless_modern_god@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Used coffee grounds. Mmm

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    • bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ⌛️

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  • Thornburywitch@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bacon & eggs on toast please, with coffee. Such a chilly morning, and probably a grey day.

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    • bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      🥓🍳🍳
      🍞

      ☕️

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  • Force_majeure123@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ham and cheese omelette on-top of rice and veg please (extra cheesy)

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    • bacon@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      🍖🧀🥚🥚
      🍚🥬🫛🧀🧀

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• StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Passed out for four hours from 5pm to 9pm, like, legit passed out lol. Struggled to sleep the rest of the night. My lymph nodes seem to be working double time; both my pits and my throat are very painful.

  (Always look) On the bright side, puss has been snoozing on my legs all night. Even when I’m restless, he’ll jump off but come back as soon as I settled. He’s a gem 🐈💎

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  • Thornburywitch@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Might be time to visit a doctor.

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    • StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ll give them a call when they open, I think. I have a low income HCC so I can get the appt bulk billed thank fuck

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• Catfish@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Gah! No I cannot in practicality help rehome semi feral cats located in Orange.

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• Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Last last night I couldn’t sleep and ended up conking out around midday, which screwed me over last night :/

  I don’t know whether I should nap or not. I only have 1 thing to do today which is in the late Arvo, so I could have a nap either now or around noon, but then it feels like I’m surrendering to the bad sleep cycle again. But on the other hand if I don’t and I fall asleep and miss my thing, that’s probably a worse outcome

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  • CEOofmyhouse56@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m gonna put my mummy hat on and tell you, you need a regular bedtime. As a mother of a teen the same age as you I will tell you since she started going to bed around 10pm her mental health has improved immensely. Before she was a freaking nightmare.

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    • SituationCake@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have to agree, even as an adult. (though I break my own rules all the time) melatonin can help but it can’t overcome an unhealthy sleep routine.

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    • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, you’re not wrong

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  • TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    melatonin

    Just a heads up i found this a bit hit miss. Sometimes it worked a treat! Other times it only minorly helped and left me with a pretty bad hangover.

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    • calhoon2005@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hangover every time for me, even on 1mg. 1/7 would not recommend if me.

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    • Baku@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I previously had a prescription for it and never had any issues. How many mg were you taking?

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  • StudChud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Take a nap, but set an alarm. And take it earlier than midday so you have time to centre yourself. If I need a nap, I generally try for an hour or an hour and a half. Less likely to wake up confused.

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  • melbaboutown@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As a short term quick fix to reset your sleep pattern you could try Restavit. It’s over the counter and basically a strong drowsy antihistamine. It’s a bit unreliable for me but I have weird reactions to drugs so it might be worth a shot. Definitely try a half tablet rather than a full because it leaves a groggy hangover.

    For long term issues if you’re able to get in through the public system it might be good to have a sleep study to check for sleep disorders. Things like sleep apnoea or delayed phase sleep disorder.

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    • Gibsonisafluffybutt@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Restavit is a god send when you need to reset your sleep pattern.

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  • Llabyrinthine@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreeing with mother CEO.

    Look up sleep hygiene. If you’re interested watch the Dr Michael Mosley sleep study episodes on SBS. I think there are just a few.

    The importance of sleep routines for those of us that struggle with sleep cannot be understated. Research finds that it takes years off your life. Which makes me lament our culture of work hard, play harder. I wish, wish, wish, I understood sleep quality years ago. All-nighter badge of honours aren’t all so great when you understand the cost.

    Also melatonin efficacy is… has an effect on a certain cohort for perhaps getting to sleep, but maintaining being asleep…

    Also, napping is a skill (that I am super bad at and can’t do).

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• Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Good night sleep tight 🥰

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• PeelerSheila@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Anyone else getting a request timeout error when you try and post a picture? I’m not even sure what that means.

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• Seagoon_@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I just did a puzzle and one of the answers was “dream vacation”

  if the world was perfect and safe, a tour of the middle east and egypt, visit all the old places and the new or a month or two in Italy

  So what is your dream vacation?

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• TinyBreak@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  anyone had any luck getting the flu and covid shots at the same time? I’m a bit time poor, and if I can do it all in one hit I can line up a time with the mrs her her to be standby parent in charge in case it zaps me.

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• bull@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s going to get to the point real soon when I’m going to consider putting the heater on.

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• Duenan@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hmm thinking of watch long Rocketman tonight.

  It’s available on the channel ten website.

  Not sure if I’m in the mood for it though

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