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Anon launches a space program

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨greentext@sh.itjust.works⁩

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  • MrJameGumb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll take my free cruise ship now please. According to the story it should be no trouble to dry dock it indefinitely and construct an entire building around it!

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    • Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can see some cities definitely cutting you a break on mooring fees as it could be a very attractive tourist draw and OP is correct that once they are clapped out big cruise liners are VERY cheap (kinda) but they vary between 70,000 tons up to over 200,000 tons and lets assume a scrap value of $50 per ton and a 100,000 ton ship you’re still going to be $5 million in the hole as a starting point before a very expensive fitout.

      Its not a terrible idea, but kickstarter isnt going to cut it for this one.

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The image OP put in is from the Disney star wars hotel thing I think. If so OP is basically calling it overpriced shit and proposing a better experience. So yeah Fisney most certainly has the sway and cash for the cruise ship idea.

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      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t think this would work as a tourist draw in the conventional sense. The problem is that money doesn’t change hands enough times to generate enough secondary revenue and taxes, since everyone is “locked in” for the duration and the ticket sales happen online (or somewhere else). Typical hotels draw people to business and tourism all over the city, and this proposal is the opposite of that. Just like a typical cruise, this puts the cruise-liner in position to run their own tax free economy/experience for guests during their entire stay; just build everything into the ticket price.

        Then you add the fact that an aging and immobile cruise ship is permanently occupying a deep-sea launch/slip in your harbor. That mooring point is no longer generating anywhere near as much income as before, since people are coming/going at a much more lax pace and you can’t use it for freight.

        Now, if you could anchor it somewhere remote where none of that matters, then you’d have something.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think it could work as a hotel instead. I think it would be cool to go on a “dry cruise,” with all of the events and whatnot a cruise would have. I’d spend 2-3 days on one just exploring the ship and whatnot.

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    • Donkter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, it’s not free but you could absolutely write a good loan proposal or appeal to angel investors for your “luxury space cruise experience.” They’d probably jump at the small cost relative to the audience for it and potential earnings.

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    • Railing5132@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And keeping it cool enough for human comfort would be super cheap too!

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      • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If the dome wall is well insulated and has a white or reflective surface, it may not be as challenging as you’d think. The other way to achieve good low-energy cooling is to build underground if the terrain, hydrological and geological conditions are right. It costs money to dig but that’s a one-time cost.

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not to mention people will probably want to watch their entry into soace. What are you gonna do? Blindfold them and be like, “Yeah we already launched and stabilized our orbit.”

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      • Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think you’re missing the point. The pic is of Disney’s star wars space ship themed hotel. The idea isn’t to make people think they’re in space, it’s to give the experience of being on a space ship.

        Not to say it’s a good idea, I think the spaceship hotel thing is kinda weird. It sort of makes sense at Disney, but you’re only in it for part of the day, and it still failed. The idea of staying in there outside of Disney would be… Odd… But maybe he’s just saying Disney should bring a ship into the park? Lol?

        But yeah, they’re not trying to hoodwink anyone into thinking they’re in space.

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why this wouldn’t work:

    “Okay honey, we’ll watch the launch!”

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    • FilterItOut@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wonder how hard it would be to fake a ‘ship’ being towed from the rough area where you boarded, and put on a real rocket. How many people would still argue it wasn’t real when they saw the launch of a rocket that could reach a few dozen miles up? Sure, some would have the technical knowledge to look at the rocket and know it wouldn’t be enough.

      Hide the true numbers off people boarding, and thus you can fake the ‘ship’ being super small, and it could work on the unknowledgeable viewer who is placed several miles away.

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  • Rolder@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I would definitely pay for a fake space cruise, assuming the outside “space” environment was sufficiently detailed, and they had quality actors running the show.

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    • ShadowAndFlame@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Everything is…nominal.

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Jason Nesmith or bust.

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think they’ve fully understood the gravity of the situation….

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    • perviouslyiner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Channel 4 managed to convince a group of people that they had gone to space! They just had to find some very special people who would believe the ‘gravity compensator’ story.

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  • fidodo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Isn’t this basically what that star wars hotel is?

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    • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s the point. OP is trying to find a way to reduce costs and make it more viable, which could lower the rate for a stay and expand the market for it. Disney’s idea sounded interesting to me, but I don’t have the kind of money they were charging for it. I’m still sorry I missed it.

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      • HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Isn’t this basically a stop on the continuum between visiting Colonial Williamsburg and Westworld depending on the labour used?

        On both ends, I always figured there was a narrow market of people who want that level of all-inclusive themed experience. You go to London, you can always break out of the package tour and do something “the locals do”.

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    • the_joeba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Was

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      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well yeah, a long long time ago.

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  • Satellaview@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t think the problem was the building.

    Financially, I think the biggest problem was paying an entire cast of actors… AND an entire secondary backup cast backstage already in makeup and ready to swap in at a moment’s notice, because the breakneck pace meant you absolutely couldn’t afford to wait an hour for somebody to drive in.

    Like, the limiting factor here isn’t that Disney couldn’t make a building big enough—it was that the whole design of “every guest should get enough face time with an actor character to feel like they’re a protagonist” just doesn’t scale well. Double the seats? Now you need twice the actors for the same amount of interaction, and your overhead is going to be thin no matter what.

    …I still wanna see somebody do this with a cruise ship, though. Just… if you’re also gonna make it a LARP, you’re gonna have to be more careful about the business implications of your narrative design.

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  • fsxylo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Disney is closing their attempt at this down after a year because they couldn’t do it right.

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  • 257m@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There was a show where they tricked a bunch of people into thinking are on a space ship with a similar method: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Cadets_(TV_series)

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    • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Highly recommend. It’s hilarious.

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  • III@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They already made this a TV mini sereies.

    spoiler

    Ascension

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