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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • user134450@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What makes them think that the library of Alexandria did it any other way? Nerds have existed long before the internet…

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    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nerds were invented by Charles Nerd, when in 1948, separated from the Poindexters and the eggheads after disagreement.

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      • rockerface@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You can only call then Nerds if they’re from the Nordeaux region of France. Otherwise they’re just sparkling smartasses

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        umm ackshually this is false, the concept of nerd originates from a viking ship that docked at Lübeck in 873, whereupon the crew got into an extended argument about the precise value of their cargo, leading to the Lübeck merchants exclaiming “Fücking Nörds!” and that quickly caught on and eventually the term started generally referring to anyone that was annoyingly pedantic but technically correct.

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  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s literally what the library of Alexandria was all about.

    They told all of the nerds that the best nerd paper would get into their nerd building, and a nerds traveled there from around the world and dedicated their lives to correcting and one upping the other nerds.

    I love the fallibility of humans and our consistency, it makes me much more comfortable to live in a world that seems in comprehensible, because I know underneath all of it are like three dumb existential complacencies that any a human part of the species can’t deny.

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  • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just ignore the 150M a year they spend managing finances, contributors, tech, moderation, etc.

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    • underisk@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i dont think anyone is ignoring that. the meme is talking about how it was built, not hot it’s currently maintained. it definitely didn’t start off spending that much, and all that money isn’t what made it popular

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      • NotJustForMe@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Some would say that most of the spending is based on greed. Individual salaries doubled to tripled in the last decade, with their head earning three quarters of a million now.

        It was a tenth 15 years ago.

        They started out right, like they all do. Then personal money catches up.

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      • Head@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      150m a year doesn’t seem that much, honestly. I know people think “oh, it’s just a website” but it takes a lot of work and money in salaries and infrastructure hosting to keep a web application as popular as Wikipedia up and running.

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      • nik9000@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I used to work for them. It was weird and wonderful and I miss it and I don’t. Lots of mission driven folks working hard to keep things going getting very little respect. But a lot of respect. But sometimes none.

        Iirc a lot of their budget is spent doing charity stuff. Encouraging contributions for tiny languages. Trying not to cave to Russia or the US or France. Trying to make it less of a boys club. Trying to get local organizations going.

        I remember once they sent an email that said “if the French government asks you to delete this page please just delete it. It’s not worth going to jail. Someone outside of France will revert the delete.”

        I wasn’t qualified for the work. No one was. But it was honest work.

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      • RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        150m a year for one of the most trafficked websites on the internet is a bargin

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not the real Library at Alexandria until it burns down. Twice.

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    • Spitzspot@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      *enter the jocks

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      • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        NERDS

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    • bloubz@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s also what happened to the library of Leuven in Belgium. German burned it during WWI. Belgians rebuilt it. Then during WWII Germans were there again, and saw some message saying that Germans did not approve of culture because of the destruction of the library. So they burned it again. It has been rebuilt since

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  • someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Damnit he correctly used the apostrophe.

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    • JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why damn it? That’s a good thing.

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      • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nerds needing to correct each other lol

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      • TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They said it as an interjection, in this case to express astonishment.

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    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Here: it’s nerd’s, not nerds’.

      You’re welcome.

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      • remotedev@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        YOU IDIOT

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      • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But… it’s plural, it already ends in s.

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      • drengbarazi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s its, not it’s.

        /s

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “The best way to get a correct answer online is not to post a question. It is to post the wrong answer.”

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    • turkishdelight@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve done it at times. It works!

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    • lemmytry@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ackchyually it’s Wikipedia.

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  • bruhduh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All human advancement was created by nerds. Spears were invented by weaklings too slow to kill with their bare hands. Fire was tamed by the people who were scared of the dark

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    • meliaesc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think fire was tamed because the food poisoning killed those without it. We are supposed to just sleep at night.

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      • Dagwood222@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Assuming primitive people would make the connection between gross food and people dying.

        ebookslib.org/sf/12898-eurema-s-dam.html

        Fun little story that makes my point.

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    • neptune@dmv.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think the post makes a point important in modern capitalism: people will create “value” for free because they can, they care, they want to, it’s a challenge. Capital and/or the threat of starvation is not actually always necessary for people to be “productive”. Ego, boredom, altruism, adventure, these are also traits of humanity besides survival and greed.

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  • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At least that is the PR.

    It all goes out of the window as soon as politcal events are concerned, then it is just western naratives all over. With things as sources, good sources, multiple viewpoints all forgotten. What the west says is treated as gospel.

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    • lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you have any sources?

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      • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        A recent thread for example: lemmygrad.ml/post/3671442?scrollToComments=true

        Also: reuters.com/…/us-security-wikipedia-idUSN16428960…

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  • SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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    • Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s crazy. The current CEO openly participates in US state department briefings.

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      • BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Maryana Iskander? What? Can you elaborate?

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    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Could you specify? I’ve heard similar comments aimed against people not accepting Russian propaganda. But I imagine with the common user base, you would get some very anglocentric implicit bias just because that’s what they know.

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    • BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Okay, this is going to need elaboration.

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      • K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Look up the guerilla skeptics

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  • Alsephina@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s what it should’ve been. In reality anything even remotely political on it is heavily biased towards imperial core and NATO countries, and against their geopolitical rivals.

    This happens because most of these “nerds” are also westerners and rate their own outlets as more reliable, thus enforcing western propaganda.

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    • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lemmy.ml

      Sur-fucking-prise.

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      • Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        lemmy.world user

        Sur-fucking-prise lol

        Wikipedia was founded by a self-admitted ancap who supported “israel’s” bombing of Gaza in 2018, its most prolific editor is a fascist. The vast majority of its editors are indeed westerners with an extreme pro-imperial core bias, particularly the US and UK.

        Hell, the current CEO literally attended a US state department briefing in 2017 with a former CIA/NSA director and is currently on the advisory board for the CIA offshoot OTF.

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      • Alsephina@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Least braindead .world user

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    • lemmyingly@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You bring up an interesting point. There are opposing opinions on everything if you go deep enough into the topic, even in STEM fields too.

      It’d be interesting to see a Wikipedia that provides pages on the same topic that present each opinion. So the base/overview page on the topic states the summaries of each opinion with a link for further reading. Each opinion page states there are many opinions on the topic and it just presents one. Each page then suggests for further reading, view the base/overview page where the user can read about other opinions on the topic.

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  • Syn_Attck@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The other day I used the term weaponized atam in a positive way, and I got banned for ableism.

    I’m on the spectrum.

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    • AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I realize autistic people often have trouble with tone and having people interpret things the way they meant it to come across – lord knows it took me took long enough to develop that skill – but good grief. I’m on the spectrum, and if I were a mod who had just read the comment in your screenshot, I’d’ve banned you too.

      Now that you’ve explained you meant it in a positive way, I completely understand what you meant, but nothing in the comment you wrote makes it clear that you think of autism in a positive way or, in fact, as anything besides “lol nerd emoji”. The fact that you had just finished going on a seven paragraph infodump (I’m guessing) unfortunately does nothing to prove otherwise: an unfortunate number of undiagnosed autistic people spend their days getting into online fights, writing said seven paragraph comments, and calling anyone who disagrees with them autistic because they want to feel superior and “autistic” is a handy epithet. I don’t think anyone would argue these people should be welcome in our communities just because of autism they themselves don’t know about.

      To be clear, I’m not saying that last statement applies to you. I’m saying if I didn’t know anything about you except that you had written the comment in that screenshot, I would have assumed it did and not given it a second thought. I can almost guarantee that’s what that mod did.

      While that term is slowly but surely being reclaimed, and I’m glad that it is, at present, it still holds the status of “insult unless explicitly stated otherwise.” Now that you’ve told me what you meant, I can see where you were coming from, but as that comment was written, “spread some weaponized autism” implies you’re prepared to call anyone who disagrees with you a slur. It seems to be saying “only an idiot autistic person would miss the sarcasm in this comment.”. It’s not what you meant, but it’s how I (and no doubt plenty of other people) probably read it.

      Please learn to use qualifiers and/or tone indicators, for the sake of your own reputation. If you’d even just replaced “weaponized autism” with “weaponized autism (affectionate)” and left the rest of the comment as is, I guarantee you’d have been fine.

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      • bruhduh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I feel you,i had to learn to feel context too, however, from my own experience i can tell that no qualifiers and explanations would prevent previous me from getting everything wrong

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    • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You didn’t use it in a “positive way” at all.

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    • DillyDaily@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I get that you’re trying to use it in a positive way, but in my country that first word you used is a slurrs that has not even attempted to be reclaimed, so it instantly makes me start reading your comment with an ableist tone.

      Nike that I know you’re trying to frame it in a positive way, I can force myself to read your comment in a positive tone. But it’s difficult because the language chosen still makes me read it like you’re annoyed that autistic people will miss the sarcasm and take it too seriously.

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  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, I do, every time there’s seventeen exceptions on a statement that used to be simple. ‘This was their last album with this drummer, until he came back, except for this other time, before he left again.’ Just rewrite the damn sentence.

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    • BingoBangoBongo@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You do it. Isn’t that the point?

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  • gayhitler420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wikipedia is not a library neither is it a reliable source of accurate information.

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    • DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s definitely not 100% foolproof to misinformation, but I’ve always found wikipedia to be reliable. Why do you feel it isnt?

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      • gayhitler420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Wikipedia’s reliability in it’s own words - check out the holocaust misinformation from last year!

        US congressional staff editing controversies as documented by and presented in wikipedia

        A ten year long hoax running until two years ago

        Wikipedia’s own list of its controversies - pay special attention here to the 2023 exposure of an administrator pretending to be a spanish folk singer as a sockpuppet of another administrator who was banned in 2015 for making “promotional edits”.

        I want to be clear: i do not feel that wikipedia isn’t reliable. I can clearly observe that wikipedia is unreliable.

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    • Scrof@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s as accurate as any university textbook and way more accurate than any school textbook.

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  • littlebluespark@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And still, even with a do-over, somehow failed to call it “M’akshually”. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    it beyter not get burned down again

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  • RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What I find amazing is that some people are dedicated to Wikipedia that they literally and consider vandals for how much information they put in.

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  • BaronOfHair@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t feel the need to correct anyone, EXCEPT when it comes to myths about date rape drugs. Most people still believe that roofies are the Rolls Royces of seduction, when in reality, chloroform remains The Gold Standard. Ever since our society began shunning manual labor back in The 1960s, shoving a chemical-soaked rag over the mouth and nose over the girl you fancy fell out of favor

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