can you actually shut the fuck up right now. women and minorities have there lives on the line and all y’all can talk about is this. if kamala wins we can protest her stance. if trump wins and we protest his stance he’s already said he’ll deploy the national guard. y’all are so smug about ruining your chances of helping these people
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TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Shouldn’t have supported the genocide of Palestinians, huh?
AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Maybe you shouldn’t have supported genocide.
Never again means never again for anyone. Remember what you sold your soul for and try to redeem it.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Trump is gonna triple-down on the Palestinian genocide and pull all support from Ukraine and probably pull out of NATO to let Putin do whatever he wants to Europe.
He’s also promised violence against Americans who oppose him.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re replying to a lemmy.ml user, they almost certainly think pulling out of NATO and allowing Putin to continue his genocide in Ukraine is a good thing.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
The Biden-Harris regime already tripled down on the genocide as much as is possible.
Re: Ukraine, forcing a diplomatic resolution is by far the best option for the Ukrainian people and any realistic person’s expectations of outcomes. Let’s hope they are no longer the pawns of American maximalist foreign policy.
Re: NATO, the best possible timeline is one where it ends as soon as possible.
Re: violence against Americans guess what we’re already there if you do anything worthwhile politically.
gerbler@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If Trump wins because enough of you idiots couldn’t hold your nose and vote then the blood of those Palestinians is on your hands. You don’t get to absolve yourself because you chose not to participate in democracy.
You aren’t opposed to genocide because you couldn’t be assed to do the smallest thing to mitigate it.
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Neither did you. Lol. Kamala was never gonna change her stance.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
If Trump wins because enough of you idiots couldn’t hold your nose and vote then the blood of those Palestinians is on your hands.
Or maybe you shouldn’t have thrown yourself in the pro-genocide Genocide Joe Lite camp.
You don’t get to absolve yourself because you chose not to participate in democracy.
lmao what democracy? Did you choose Harris? What primary did she win?
You aren’t opposed to genocide because you couldn’t be assed to do the smallest thing to mitigate it.
By doing what, voting for someone complicit in the Biden-Harris regime’s genocide? You are so flipped around.
Never again means never again for anyone. Get it through your skull.
thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Is trump going to do anything different though?
Former President Donald Trump declared Tuesday that Israel must “finish the problem” in its war against Hamas
nbcnews.com/…/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rc…
If the above is true, I don’t know why anyone would bring his up. It’s like choosing between two seats on a bus. One has broken glass on it, the other has broken glass and is on fire.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Is trump going to do anything different though?
Given that the policy is already maximalist, he cannot do worse. This is what liberals have tolerated for over a year.
If the above is true, I don’t know why anyone would bring his up. It’s like choosing between two seats on a bus. One has broken glass on it, the other has broken glass and is on fire.
They are both on fire, but one is honest about it. Maybe you will actually oppose genocide now that the orange man will be in charge.
FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
How do you know they support genocide? A lot of american voters are voting against Trump, not for this year’s insincere Wall Street spokeperson.
On the other hand, I know someone that should feel guilty about the fate of Palestinians starting January…
The IDF thanks you for your service!
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Straight up fantasising death of innocents because your candidate lost. Obama, biden all of these guys were saints that maintained peace and never hurt any innocents.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
How do you know they support genocide?
Because of the tenor of their comment clearly shows a tolerance for it via an investment in a genocide candidate.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nobody’s “souls” matter anymore. The world is completely fucked and our physical bodies are going to be going through the ringer very soon. I hope you’re on the right side of the people who can now do whatever they want with absolutely no guardrails. Otherwise you’re about to REALLY experience solidarity.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
You should be against genocide and act accordingly. Let tonight teach you that lesson.
stoy@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
If you honestly believe the situation in Palestine will be better with the Cheeto in charge of the US, then you are insane.
The US is a deeply flawed democracy, and like it or not, any choice other than voting for the Democrats, including abstaining is a vote for the Cheeto.
But you are a .ml user, so you are either trolling or a useful idiot.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Oh look, the very-serious Cheetoh dialog has arrived.
Focus on self-reflection and redeeming yourself for accepting genocide. Go do some work in your community and for humanity.
stoy@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I said this before, and I’ll say it again, since both parties in the election (don’t try and claim that the greens have any hope of winning, they only serve to split the Democrat vote) seem disinterested in the horrific situation in Palestine, you pick the least bad candidate.
If you don’t, you get the worst candidate for everyone.
I am not American, but if I were, I’d pick Harris no question.
Since you are supporting Trump, tell me, how does is feel supporting a sexist, racist, convicted felon who also supports genocide?
Remember that in the US idiotic election system, any vote other than the Dems is a vote for the Reps, and any vote for the Reps is a vote for a worse society.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I said this before, and I’ll say it again, since both parties in the election (don’t try and claim that the greens have any hope of winning, they only serve to split the Democrat vote) seem disinterested in the horrific situation in Palestine, you pick the least bad candidate.
And I’ve said this before: don’t both-sides a genocide. Never again means never again for anyone.
If you won’t listen to basic moralism, listen to your resounding strategic loss.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Haha, yeah that’ll show em!
Now instead of having a president that supports the genocide of Palestinians you’ll have… checks notes … a president that supports the genocide of Palestinians. Wait there’s more here… doesn’t believe in climate change, a guy who actively wants to prove that vaccines don’t work actually in charge of health related shit, enabling the genocide of Ukraine (hey a whole new genocide!), pulling out of alliances or and what’s this last fun one, threatening the already flawed foundations of US democracy by, among other things, threatening to deploy the military against political opponents.
Is that was winning and being morally superior looks like? Because it looks pretty awful from here.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Now instead of having a president that supports the genocide of Palestinians you’ll have… checks notes … a president that supports the genocide of Palestinians.
Yeah maybe you should have demanded better instead of tolerating genocide. Your camp lost. I know I didn’t tolerate it.
zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Oh, I wish I could. The moral high ground means doesn’t buy anyone their rights or life back unfortunately, so you got a pretty bad deal there.
BeN9o@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Why did you ignore all the other points? I’d love to hear someone accept what Trump has done and will do. If Trump pulls out of Ukraine and allows another genocide, what will be your argument then? “Never again”? Or are you just trolling?
r00ty@kbin.life 2 months ago
I wouldn't even bother replying to comments from hexbear mk II. I just automatically assume troll.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I’m not American so not sure exactly who my camp is or what I was supposed to do. Enjoy your measles and smallpox, hope it was a good trade in exchange for making zero difference to Palestinians in the best case.
lohky@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Oh man, if you think it was bad under Biden…
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
It will be the same but liberals will be less asleep during atrocities.
lohky@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol k. I bet things get better for everyone now, huh?
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
If you decide to be part of the right side of history, it will help that, yes. Are you going to?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Oh, man. If you were happy with the genocide under Biden…
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Don’t you worry now, Trump will make sure that the suffering of the Palestinian people will end quickly
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s no fantasy, you are just in denial.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Ðı’ṙ totėlı ſėm ƿuıt kid hu’z nevṙ livd ð difrinſ.
spoiler
They’re totally aome white kid who’s never lived the difference.
Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Please say:
The Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 happend.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I guess we’ll get to find out if there is such a thing as “worse genocide”
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Not in terms of American support, you won’t. Biden is already the maximum.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
We’ll see.
jawa21@startrek.website 2 months ago
Seriously? Fuck you. This supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.
I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.
I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.
The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.
I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.
In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which may have been resolved), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.
Guitarfun@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No this only proves the misogyny ingrained in the US. We will never allow a woman to be president.
dingus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Honestly I’m wondering if that’s why the margin Trump is winning is so “huge”. The US will never vote for a woman president. Both times Trump has gone up against a woman, he’s won. But against a man, he lost.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
When CNN interviewed a black man at a previously Biden stronghold in Georgia, he said “women are emotional” and “I don’t think they make great leaders”
The men who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump because they were afraid of a women being in a position of power.
You’re right
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Absolutely. This country is way more misogynistic than I realized
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Ð elektoret inkaṙneıcėn v “Moṙ ƿorıd ėbaut n bııŋ kald ė bigit ðæn n bııŋ ė bigit.”
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
This proves that you need to at least pander to the left to win, i.e. the only consistently anti-genocide group in the country. Maybe you should join them instead of tolerating genocide.
Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 2 months ago
You’re sitting in a throne made of shit, and you’re feeling right at home.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Geez if you wanna get blocked so bad just say so.
frunch@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They’re still gonna die under trump though, i don’t get your point
minibyte@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
@lemmy.ml speaks for itself.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
If your “gotcha” is that your enemies are against genocide you should do some introspection
SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If your “gotcha” is you prefer the genocide to get worse to “teach people a lesson”, you need to do some introspection as well.
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Nah my “gotcha” is already stated: you shouldn’t accept genocide. Shame on you for doing so.
TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 2 months ago
No offense but you’re a fucking idiot if you think Trump would do any better
Isoprenoid@programming.dev 2 months ago
Trump: “I stopped the genocide.”
Us: “You made the genocide worse!”
Trump: “Worse? Or better?”
/Invader Zim Reference - www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDIgS-Soo9Q
TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
If you like winning you should try not embracing genocide
Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Please say:
TheChargedCreeper864@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Bit of a tangent, but this pains me every time I read this in threads.
I wanted to join Lemmy after the Reddit exodus, found out that ml was “the main one” made by the devs and joined it. Last time I carefully tried to pick an instance was Mastodon, and I hardly ever found any content. Decided to check back in the other day, and every account except for the admin’s (like less than 50) was removed for inactivity.
I’m not some far-right or Russian troll, but because most of them are on that instance everyone on it gets this reputation.
Signed, European who’s afraid that the far-right movement on his continent will turn into an ultra-far-right turbo-movement now