chanterelles are pretty safe to forage if they grow near you.
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Neato@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
Looking over the wikipedia page on this mushroom and all the similar, very edible ones…Yeah I’m never foraging mushrooms.
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 months ago
pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 3 months ago
egg mushrooms 😋
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 months ago
They are so goddamned good, I highly recommend looking around white oak trees by carefully clearing away the leaf litter a few days after it rains. They can’t really be bought in stores and when they do show up they’re like $50 a pound because you can’t really farm them as they have a symbiotic relationship with only certain trees and are very vulnerable to other fungus like mold.
pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 3 months ago
Where I live (mountainous region in Austria) they are everywhere. I just go hiking for a bit so I’m at not too frequented spots and then I can just pick as many as I need, often the floor nearly is more yellow than brown on certain spots.
We don’t have white oaks here but they typically grow in needle forests.
(And we call them Eierschwammerl = egg mushrooms, to explain my previous comment)
Image of a typical spot, took it a month ago ^
AnarchoCummunist@hexbear.net 6 months ago
And this is why I grow my own. I’m very fond of Albino Texas PE6. Easy to grow, consistent, and you can clone and agar spawn over and over again. Such an aggressive little strain. And looks very distinct. Unmistakable.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 months ago
There’s nice little kits you can buy online for your kitchen. :)
frezik@midwest.social 6 months ago
Those don’t have very good reputations among growers. Bunch of crap you don’t need, and the stuff you do need is garbage quality.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 months ago
Nah, but they’re easy for laymen. If you’ve got links to affordable kits for beginners pls chare.
AnarchoCummunist@hexbear.net 4 months ago
In my experience, they are quite poor in producing anything worthwhile. Look up the Uncle Ben’s Tek. 90 minute mycology or The Rookie Mycologist have great guides for this, and they’re easy to follow. I’ve gotten amazing results so far.
Owl@hexbear.net 6 months ago
Mushroom foraging can be safe, but the rules are:
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Always learn from a local guide first. It’s not transferable to other regions. Which makes books, let alone the internet, a really bad idea.
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You don’t rule out dangerous mushrooms, you identify a specific edible mushroom.
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Never trust a little white mushroom.
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zaphod@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Is the main visual difference just the stem or whatever it’s called being much longer?
Risk@feddit.uk 6 months ago
IIRC, the only definitive way to ID mushrooms is by making a spore print - and even then you need to know what you’re doing.
Just doesn’t seem worth the risk to me.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
nah it’s generally fairly easy to ID mushrooms, the problem is just that if you miss a feature and mistake it for another, you’ll fucking liquidize from the inside out.
This is the same reason that you never touch something that looks like a carrot plant in the wild, because it could be that one plant that kills you 3 times over.
I agree that it’s generally not worth the risk though, hence why those who pick mushrooms (which is pretty standard to do here in the nordics) stick to like 5 species who have no dangerous lookalikes and actually taste good and are easy to find.
Here in sweden 90% of what people pick is chanterelles or boletes, whose entire families look effectively the same and at worst simply don’t taste good. Boletes have ONE slightly toxic species in sweden, and it’s bright red and only grows on one island in the baltic sea.
teejay@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is the same reason that you never touch something that looks like a carrot plant in the wild
That’s funny. I was just thinking to myself “Fuck all this mushroom noise. I’ll just stick to eating carrots, no way to mistake those for something else.” I guess I’ll die quickly in the coming apocalypse.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 months ago
If anyone is curious about the carrot mention, Google where the phrase “Sardonic Grin” came from.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 months ago
never touch something that looks like a carrot plant in the wild, because it could be that one plant that kills you 3 times over.
Okay so when you said “Never touch” I was thinking casually "Oh, don’t go messing with it or munching on it or whatever.
Looking it up, oh…poison hemlock…you were being dead-exact.
“As his doctor, Christopher Hayner, MD, pointed out, LeBlond didn’t have to eat the poisonous plant to fall ill. “Anything you can touch, you can also inhale,” he explained to Good Housekeeping. When LeBlond used a chainsaw to cut down the hemlock, tiny particles scattered in the air, and when he breathed them in, they almost killed him.”
Oh holy crap.
Kill it with fire!“If you do find a suspicious stalk and want to remove it, wear gloves, a face mask, and protective clothing. Dig it out from the roots, rather than cutting it, and never burn it, as the fumes can cause a reaction.”
Not even fire can sate its lust for indiscriminate killing?!
Apparently it’s a “recent problem” that this stuff is spreading all over the place.
It was as I suspected. Going outside is overrated. 😬
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
This is untrue. Spore print can be useful for some very similar species or when you are first learning but I’ve been picking and eating wild mushrooms for about 15 years now and I basically never do a spore print anymore. Once your learn it’s pretty unnecessary. The ones I pick are easy to ID anyway. Most people can learn to identify them fairly quickly with some instruction though I have noticed that some people lack the attention to detail to be good at it.
chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Yah – and to add certain edible mushrooms or families of mushrooms are very distinctive (e.g. hedgehog fungi in the UK), and I would recommend novices start out with. Others I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole even if I was relatively confident with an id, purely because it isn’t worth the risk (e.g. miller Vs fools funnel).
Risk@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Perhaps I should have said ‘categorically’ instead of ‘definitively’, but they are synonyms so…
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
Lots of differences but the simplest one would be that button mushrooms would typically have color to their gills—they usually start out pinkish and move to brown as they get older. Destroying angel has pure white gills.
But button mushrooms are actually not very beginner friendly despite their familiarity since there are other poisonous lookalikes in many areas.
Kimano@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Destroying Angel” is an incredibly metal name for a mushroom lmao.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My wife wanted to take a foraging class and I pointed out all the similarities and said to her, if you don’t want to buy mushrooms from the store, we can just grow them.
flora_explora@beehaw.org 6 months ago
The two mentioned species are pretty easy to distinguish once you get familiar with them (based on gills, spores and the stem base). But I would never rely on an app to make the decision for me! If you exclusively go for easier groups where there are no life threatening species in your area (boletes where I life), you should be pretty safe.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
Yeah, I carefully read the description of its distinguishing features, studied the photo, and concluded I have no idea what I’m looking at and how to tell them apart.
Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I’m really good at spotting differences or inconsistencies, I’m totally lost with mushrooms though, and I go multiple times every Autumn with a woman in her 70’s. She is very clear about what we are looking for. She throws out at least half of what I gather.
Maalus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
She does that cause she’s jealous of how many you pick
motor_spirit@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Cool, I think you just saved me a bit of time.
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StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do these conditions have anything to do with a person’s ability to identify mushrooms
whostosay@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Very likely. Experience is a thing
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Well, she’s not dead yet so that’s a good sign.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
If someone goes mushroom gathering multiple times a year, getting to live until 70 speaks volumes about her ability.
ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 6 months ago
Simple, just eat it and see.
If you’re dead, it’s poisonous.
If you are alive, you haven’t eaten enough.
StaySquared@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This.
I’ll just trust the dealer.
NightAuthor@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Mushroom lesson I did says that looking under the cap, spore color, what tree root system it’s growing in, can give you a really solid ID