Comment on Ubisoft Co-Founder Claude Guillemot Dies In Plane Crash

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• remon@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was always told that airplanes were statistically safer than cars.

  Commercial airliners. It’s a very different story for smaller planes and helicopters are death traps!

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  • Zink@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have the perfect story for this.

    About a decade ago I attended a week-long reliability training held by ASQ (the American Society for Quality). One day heading back to my hotel room I shared an elevator with the then-president-chairman of ASQ.

    He was chatting about airliner safety, and how the engineers would do things like test/measure/calculate to find the necessary thickness of a part, and then just triple it for safety because they could. He said he’d never hesitate to ride a commercial airliner.

    He then said he would never ride in a helicopter as long as he lived, lol.

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    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly the only helicopters I’d trust are VTOLs that lean more toward the plain side of things, mostly because then they can glide and don’t just rush towards the ground.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was just reading a story about some sky divers who died in a plane crash shortly after launch.

    It said the non commercial airliner stuff isn’t held to the same standards, and whatever state / agency it was said it couldn’t say these types of planes are safe because of it.

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• mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  God, I hate these arguments.

  “Look at all these things that happened! There must be something more to this! It’s too much of a coincidence! CONSPIRACY!”

  Did you know shark attacks increase alongside ice cream sales? By that logic, there must be some secret alliance between Big Ice Cream and the shark cabal.

  Or maybe both go up because it’s summer and more people are at the beach.

  The same thing happens with plane crashes involving wealthy people. Rich people fly far more than the average person, and they often fly private aircraft, which have a higher accident rate than commercial airlines.

  Not every cluster of events is evidence of secret black-ops CIA assassinations. Sometimes a correlation is just a correlation, and sometimes a streak of bad luck is just a streak of bad luck.

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  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I own a cat and have never been hit by a meteorite, therefore cats prevent meteor strikes.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      See you at the next antivax meeting.

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Big Ice Cream and Big Shark are definitely working together!

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    • TheOakTree@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is why baby shark blew up. You know what else babies like? Ice cream.

      We’ve blown it wide open. Watch your backs and sleep with one eye open!

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• dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Rich fucks just fly more overall. While flying is very safe. If you do it more, then it is more likely you will be the one in the plane when the rare thing goes wrong. Quirks of privilege.

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  • early_riser@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Importantly, they tend to fly private aircraft, which I have recently learned are not as safe as commercial airliners. Commercial flights are subject to countless safety checks and have redundancies for days.

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    • Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Guess those rich people are just going to have to start buying commercial jets. What a nightmare!

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      • Napster153@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Riding with the peasantry class? Never!

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also very different airplanes

    Commercial airplane crashes always make big news and their crashes in the past always caused improved regulations to the point where there is little left to improve

    Private airplanes, on the other hand, different story

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, key detail being, if we started listing car crashes from the past month, it would take up the whole thread.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You mean last week. Cars slaughter 580 people a week.

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• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because those important people are more likely to be in a plane than unimportant people.

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  • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Commercial planes are constantly coming and going through every major airport. Do these wealthy people really collectively fly more than that?

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How often does Bezos end up in a plane? How often are you in a plane?

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      • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s the wrong question to ask. “important people are more likely to be in a plane than unimportant people” is valid as a partial explanation only if we assume that all aircrafts have similar crash probabilities and are flown with a similar number of passengers.

        The frequency with which I personally fly does not impact how often other people fly. All it does is give you one data point on how often other people in my situation might fly, and we don’t know how many others are in my situation, so that information is also useless.

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    • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They fly small planes, in a lot of cases they fly themselves.

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  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You never learn the name of the “unimportant” people that die in air crashes

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    • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We might not learn their names, but we definitely learn about the aircraft and how many people died.

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      • wholookshere@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If its of a certain size yes, but the planes that actually crash everyday don’t get reported widely because they’re tiny aircraft

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now that I had ent considered. There’s importance squared. A second layer.

      I’m tired of humans. I’m now identify as one of those gay frogs Alex Jones is so strangely passionate about.

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• mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Also also. You have a 17 year span of time for 13 people that died in a plane crash. That’s less than one person a year on average. I’d say that’s pretty freaking safe compared to other modes of travel like automobiles or through The Warp.

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• placebo@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Commercial aviation is much safer than cars because there are strict procedures and oversight that applies to everyone involved - not only pilots, but the entire operational chain. It isn’t exactly the same when it comes to small business jets.

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It might just be a frequency illusion or something, but it has seemed like airplane crashes in the US have skyrocketed in the past few years (surely it has nothing to do with the Republican party gutting regulation). And looking at where most of the dates in your comment fall, I wonder if it’s just a probability thing.

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• larcohex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some are helicopter crashes

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  • lordziv@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rip Oliver Tree

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• SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Small aircraft got the nicknames “widow makers” and “doctor killers” for a reason.

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  wasnt kobe a helicopter accident. and people glossed over the fact that he allegations of SA in the past when he died.

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I live near an airport that has a private aircraft and jet show every summer. Half the booths are about safety, including whole plane parachutes. This is a well known problem.

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