I would instantly buy your book!
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sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Imagine a terrestrial planet that is Earthlike in all respects, but it simply has more persistent cloud cover, such that seeing an open cloudless sky is miraculously unlikely, as unlikely as humans seeing an asteroid impact.
No ground based astronomy.
No technological discoveries or culture that derives from ground based astronomy.
No celestial navigation on the ground.
Very different / stunted / more difficult cartography.
Technological civilization is capable of emerging, but it would not be able to well understand anything beyond the terra firma, not untill it generated aircraft capable of breaching the cloud cover layer, and thrmen developed airborne observatories.
feinstruktur@lemmy.ml 33 minutes ago
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 minutes ago
Hah, I haven’t written one, but maybe check out Arthur’s short story elsewhere in the comments!
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 minutes ago
That just sounds like a hollow world…
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
Well, the church threw us back about a millenia, so what’s a few centuries.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 42 minutes ago
Is there a particular instance you’re referring to here? Because contrary to popular belief, the church has historically been big on investing in what we now call science.
For instance, although the trial of Galileo is often characterised as “big bad church holds us back because religion is opposed to heliocentrism”, there was actually a lot of legitimate scientific beef against Galileo. Although he ended up being right about heliocentrism, he didn’t really have good evidence to support his claims; He didn’t understand Kepler’s laws of planetary motion, and his telescope produced so many aberrant artifacts that astronomers who use it were reasonable to be dubious of his claims.
If you’d like to learn more, here’s an excellent video by Dr Fatima, an astrophysicist turned science communicator. The philosopher of science, Paul Feyerabend also uses Galileo as a case study in his book Against Method
Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 5 hours ago
Have you read Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy?
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
Yea but they were playing cricket with the Galaxy
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Hah, actually no I have not.
-1 nerd point lol
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Good news: it’s all public domain. If you want to read it, it is here. Whole series is there, at least the public domain ones. There was a newer one that wasn’t public domain when I last checked, though that was a long time ago and it might be now.
Don’t read it for nerd points. Read it to find out why it’s associated with nerd points.
Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 5 hours ago
Don’t want to spoil anything because you really should, but this is very reminiscent of a plot point in one of the books.
Rubisco@slrpnk.net 55 minutes ago
This hoopy frood really knows where the towel is.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 hours ago
Damn, only now did I realize I’ve only read one book in a series
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I wrote and tried publishing a short story about a species like that.
where only occasionally people on top of mountains see stars, and they chuck it as a consequence of low pressure. eventually they invented flight, and assume pilots going high enough to see stars are having cognitive issues due to lack of air.
They asked pilots to draw the stars they see, and they get different drawings (they sent pilots at different times of the year because they couldn’t ever expect stars to shift) and assume its proof that thise stars are a cognitive artifact.
Eventually a pilot swears they are real and can actually use then to navigate, skepticism, he proves it. brand new research field emerges.
Although the story focuses more on deep DEEP time an omniengineering. (A term I just made up because mega engineering is a concept way too small compared to the one in the story).
If you want I don’t mind putting that story in the conversation.
DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Post it for sure
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
docs.google.com/document/d/…/edit?usp=drivesdk
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vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I liked it. It seems to fall apart at the end a bit but this is a really cool concept for sure.
Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
That was a good read! I liked the pacing, the dawning not quite horror.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Shit yeah go for it, I love those kinds of stories!
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
docs.google.com/document/d/…/edit?usp=drivesdk
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anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
thank u, good read
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
I’d read it
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
docs.google.com/document/d/…/edit?usp=drivesdk
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clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Heck yeah, I’d read that.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
docs.google.com/document/d/…/edit?usp=drivesdk
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nilaus@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Well, as soon as they invent radio and experience interferens radio astronomi will evolve… I guess?
Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Project Hail Mary has a bit about this, don’t want to say more to keep it spoiler free.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Haven’t seen it yet, I appreciate the nonspoiling =D
bort@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
iirc that detail they are refering to, didnt make it into the movie.
Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Yes, correct, they skipped a lot of the harder science for the movie to keep it a reasonable length. Movie was still very good though!
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Definitely read the book. The book is about the existential elation at discovering a solution to a dire problem, so knowing poorly a communicated versions of every solution will likely ruin the book for anyone serious about the hard Sci-Fi.
mkwt@lemmy.world 32 minutes ago
“Nightfall”, by Arthur C. Clarke is a short story based on this premise.
Except in the story it’s a complex multiple-star solar system that makes it very rare for all suns to set at once.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 minutes ago
Augh!
You’re telling me there’s an Arthur C Clarke short that I missed?
Damnit I am losing so many nerd points today.