I have never played FFVII, would you recommend me to play the remake or the original first?
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
As long you can still play the old version with your old save, I don’t see the problem.
Although I wonder what the new version introduces…
I might replay FFVII at one point after getting the third episode of the remake. It’d be a nice way to spot the differences in the story…
lauseta@piefed.social 16 hours ago
bobbbu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
I m 100% biased, as am a massive fan. So I’ll share my SO’s perspective. She played it a few years back for the first time, wondering what all the fuss was about, and she absolutely loved it. The graphics rapidly disappeared for her and let place to the adventure. The Remake and Rebirth are good, too. Though they slightly modified the story. (Remake ≠ Remaster). The modes graphics of the original are a big plus. I’m unsure of what is available nowadays. Haven’t played it in 5years, or so. If you ever get to play it, or decide too, please don’t read anything about it, story wise. Spoilers everywhere, especially for an old masterpiece like this one.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
The remake isn’t really a remake. It’s obvious to anyone who played the original within an hour.
It’s a sequel and I don’t think that’s a spoiler. However, the characters aren’t aware of the events of the first one by chapter 13, where I’m at. So it’s a spoiler to the characters? But not to gamers.
The original on Xbox has cheats that make the game easier and less tedious. I don’t know if they affect achievements but the OG didn’t have them, so I’m fine not earning them. Fortunately the OG comes with Remake on Xbox, but anyone can grab a PlayStation emulator and play the OG that way.
The original is dated graphically, but you gotta realize it was basically the first ever cinematic game of its kind. These days that’s most games. Back then in 1996 or 1997 it was a truly novel idea. It was even advertised as being too big for Hollywood to make into a movie. They stopped just short of saying it was better than a movie. And it exceeded all our expectations. Hearing everyone talk about it in high school was wild. It seemed like everyone was playing it, even people who didn’t like video games. Even the preppy girls and jock boys were getting in on it. Everyone found characters to admire. It really was a cultural phenomenon.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
The original is dated graphically, but you gotta realize it was basically the first ever cinematic game of its kind.
And the game shipped on 3 CDs. Kids these days don’t know we had to change disks mid gameplay. :D For us in Germany FF7 was even the first Final Fantasy we got ever as an official release! I played FF6 before and this new game with pre-rendered background, 3D battle graphics and CGI sequences was truly next gen. But at that time videogames were still for freaks in Germany and there was only a handful people playing RPGs.
Also I loved to search the internet in the local libraries computers for websites that lists data on the game, hunt hidden stuff and find animated GIFs to save them on my floppy disk… oh yes the floppy…
Katana314@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
If you want nostalgia for a remake of a game that came out close to the year 2000, I would instead recommend Trails in the Sky First Chapter. Unlike the dumb time travel ghost shenanigans, it’s actually a remake of an old JRPG. It tunes up battle mechanics, but also respects what worked in the first game.
JayEchoRay@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I have only played the first chapter - old (out of 3, I believe)
Was also a very engaging game, had a very coming of age theme to it with a combat system that seemed simple but starts to show its depth once abilities get unlocked and you start to chain it.
I liked how the relationships felt more grounded and the story’s build up had, for me, more intrigue and mystery than most jrpgs
Only complaint, more like criticism, is it is a nightmare for people that feel the need to complete everything or realise that the npcs have different dialogues over time and feel compelled to make sure that everything is done before moving on. That can be a positive or negative depending on player though.
Despite the criticism, it did feel good to know I deserved and worked for the ending I got, even though I found out after I missed a few things
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
I just replaced the original (with mods to make it look nicer) last year. Hadn’t played it since like 1997 on PS. It was great nostalgia and still a great game, but obviously a bit dated in some QOL departments.
It is, however, a complete game and the story line is still good. Especially if you go into it blind. The entire materia system to give your characters powers and perks is legendary.
The OG game came out as an entire (and long) game. It’s complete. Major bonus. No bullshit having to buy a game like 3 times over a 15 year span just to get it all. Not to mention having to keep waiting for that 3rd game to release.
If you like (or think you may like) old school turn based rpg’s, then give it a shot. You should like it. If you don’t like those, avoid it, and if you haven’t ever played one, it’s not a lot of money to risk.
I do recommend getting some mods on it though. It can be made to look much better than it originally did during that awkward phase where they were making 3d games, but graphics weren’t good enough to warrant making them 3d.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 hours ago
The remake heavily relies on understanding the original story to really get the most out of its new story stuff as it implies some kind of time travel or alternative dimension shenanigans.
Vespair@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Like everyone else says, the remake isn’t a remake, it’s a weird sequel. More importantly though, the original is one of the greatest video games of all time while the remake is a video game. There’s no comparison, tbh
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
Honestly, the original still holds up today, you just need to emulate it so you can get the best version of the game. The mods required to get it playable on PC nowadays are honestly not worth the effort. Also the graphics look stranger and more dated than they did originally due to different display technologies and vastly higher resolution displays these days. And, last time I checked, there’s no way to get the original font back, which genuinely makes a massive difference.
You’re going to deal with some clumsy mistranslations but it’s not such a big deal in my opinion.
There’s also a real remake on mobile called Ever Crisis, but I haven’t tried it so no opinion on that.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
The mods required to get it playable on PC nowadays are honestly not worth the effort.
Hmm, the Steam version works out of the box without mods. Its a good version to play, besides the online server requirements bullshit. I assume the new version will be based on the later released updated version on PS4 in 2015 and Switch on 2019.
Schmuppes@lemmy.today 8 hours ago
I read about the upcoming new version and pulled the trigger because Steam had the game for 5 €. The idea was that I might get a Steam Deck some time this year so I can play games on my commute. Will I not be able to play the game unless I open a hot spot on my phone?
JayEchoRay@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I would say depends on your preferences
By today’s standards, old 7 gameplay, graphics and story will seem dated.
I am unable to play the newer ones, but from what little I have seen it seems to “feel” better when you see and know characters from the original.
I have played and finished old ff7 and if you don’t mind reading everything, some grinding unless you are going to for the secret stuff ( which is heavy grinding) it should be a “smooth” experience once you get to grips with the game systems, graphics and gameplay - and yeah, It can feel difficult in the old one to get into but I found the payoffs were engaging, had moments of emotional resonance and generally felt satisfied by the end - but that is because I allowed myself to be engaged with the game world.
That is all up to personal taste, as I know there are games that have had a stronger effect on me, but I also understand why FF 7 is rated the way it is.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
I say the Remake is basically a complete new game. It shouldn’t have been called Remake, but more like “Inspired by”. You don’t need to play the original game in my opinion, if you want to play the Remake. To me those are two separate games. And that comes from someone who says the original FF7 is the best videogame of all time.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
I guess the old one might feel really old if it’s your first Final Fantasy.
Even the remakes feel a bit dated in a way (not graphically).
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
My hope is, to get rid of the online service connection requirement. Right after the announcement, the game could not be started anymore. Hours later it worked again, but shows it depends on the servers of Square:
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GalacticPanther@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
That’s kinda bullshit. Why does a near 30 year old single player game need internet to function?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
So that middle management can justify their existence!
iamthetot@piefed.ca 2 hours ago
Is this not only for cloud saves?
pory@lemmy.world 24 minutes ago
Cloud saving people is a pretty core mechanic of FF7
iamthetot@piefed.ca 18 minutes ago
Got a solid chuckle out of me with that one.
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
No, it probably affect tifa and aerith saves as well.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
I don’t know exactly for what. Other games do not rely on additional servers, even if they support Steam Cloud Saves. You can play them without online connection, then your data wouldn’t load off course. But the games usually start. In this case however, the game does not even start. I think it is kind of a DRM to check you own the game.
iamthetot@piefed.ca 9 minutes ago
I mean this came up when I posted the story myself, and I immediately tried to launch the game to test it and it worked fine. Another user reported it was fine too.
To be clear, I’m not defending them using their own account service for the cloud saves either, because it is dumb to do so when Steam offers that functionality.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
I’m hoping the game will be released on GOG as I wouldn’t buy a game I’ve already owned on console on Steam since it wouldn’t be DRM free.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
it seems likely, FF7 is one of the most voted for games on their dreamlist and 4 FF games released on GOG recently
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Yeah, I was surprised that FF7 was not included, but 8 and 9 are. This re-release could be part of reworking whatever is needed to release on GOG. Also 6 is missing for some unknown reason.