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BroBot9000@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?
Ai is literally making people dumber:
microsoft.com/…/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_sur…
www.theregister.com/…/is_ai_changing_our_brains/
They are a massive privacy risk:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s
theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-da…
Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:
…org.uk/…/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/
And they are a massive environmental disaster:
news.mit.edu/…/explained-generative-ai-environmen…
forbes.com/…/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-s…
Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.
Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?
With the number of times that refrain is regurgitated here ad nauseum, need is an odd way to put it. Sick of it might fit sentiments better. Done with this & not giving a shit is another.
Evil must be fought as long as it exists.
OK, but you’re just making yourselves lolcows at this point where you announce these easy-to-push buttons & people derive joy from pushing them. Imitating AI just to troll is a thing now.
So…that’s a victory?
ah yes, the people doing what they can to go against a thing they think is bad, they are the stupid dumb people
not the ones going out of their way to make fun of them and be irreverent for no reason other than “haha this person has sincere beliefs, what a moron!”
think about what your point is, how are your posts doing any sort of good?
Ai is literally making people dumber:
And books destroyed everyone’s memory. People used to have fantastic memories.
They are a massive privacy risk:
No different than the rest of cloud tech. Run your AI local like your other self hosting.
Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:
Hitler used radio to push fascism into every home. It’s not the medium, it’s the message.
And they are a massive environmental disaster:
AI uses a GPU just like gaming uses a GPU. Building a new AI model uses the same energy that Rockstar spent developing GTA5. But it’s easier to point at a centralized data center polluting the environment than thousands of game developers spread across multiple offices creating even more pollution.
Stop being a corporate apologist
Run your own AI! Complaining about “corporate AI” is like complaining about corporate email. Host it yourself.
Run your own AI!
Oh sure, let me just pull a couple billion out of the couch cushions to spin up a data center in the middle of the desert.
I linked it in this thread but here it is again.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17bpGItqXw
There is a huge open source community working on LLM’s.
Comments like this remind me of all the blockchain hate. People with no idea what they were talking about inventing justifications for hating something they were unwilling to understand.
Lol I didn’t know that the anarchists over at lemmy.dbzer0.com are being corporate apologists. /sarcasm
Weird … It looks like I can sign up for an account on dbzer0 even though I’m not actually an anarchist.
Gish gallop
You’re repeating debunked claims that are being pushed by tech giants to lobby for laws to monopolize AI control.
I’d rather read AI crap than this idiocy.
Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:
Everything can be used for that. If anything, I believe AI models are too restricted and tend not to argue on controversial subjects, which prevents you from learning anything. Censorship sucks
Ai is literally making people dumber: microsoft.com/…/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_sur…
We surveyed 319 knowledge workers who use GenAI tools (e.g., ChatGPT, Copilot) at work at least once per week, to model how they enact critical thinking when using GenAI tools, and how GenAI affects their perceived effort of thinking critically. Analysing 936 real-world GenAI tool use examples our participants shared, we find that knowledge workers engage in critical thinking primarily to ensure the quality of their work, e.g. by verifying outputs against external sources. Moreover, while GenAI can improve worker efficiency, it can inhibit critical engagement with work and can potentially lead to long-term overreliance on the tool and diminished skill for independent problem-solving. Higher confidence in GenAI’s ability to perform a task is related to less critical thinking effort. When using GenAI tools, the effort invested in critical thinking shifts from information gathering to information verification; from problem-solving to AI response integration; and from task execution to task stewardship. Knowledge workers face new challenges in critical thinking as they incorporate GenAI into their knowledge workflows. To that end, our work suggests that GenAI tools need to be designed to support knowledge workers’ critical thinking by addressing their awareness, motivation, and ability barriers.
I would not say “can potentially lead to long-term overreliance on the tool and diminished skill for independent problem-solving” equals to “literally making people dumber”. A sample size of 319 isn’t really representative anyways, and they mainly had a sample of a specific type of people. People switch from searching to verifying, which doesn’t sound too bad if done correctly. They associate critical thinking with verifying everything (“Higher confidence in GenAI’s ability to perform a task is related to less critical thinking effort”), not sure I agree on this.
Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?
We don’t need a collection of random ‘AI bad’ articles because your entire premise is flawed.
In general, people are not ‘sick of LLM and Ai slop’. Real people, who are not chronically online, have fairly positive views of AI and public sentiment about AI is actually becoming more positive over time.
Here is Stanford’s report on the public opinion regarding AI (hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/…/public-opinion).
Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.
My dude, it sounds like you need to go out into the environment a bit more.
We don’t need a collection of random ‘AI bad’ articles because your entire premise is flawed.
god forbid you have evidence to support your premise. huh.
My dude, it sounds like you need to go out into the environment a bit more.
oh you have a spare ecosystem in the closet for when this one is entirely fucked huh? npr.org/…/elon-musk-ai-xai-supercomputer-memphis-…
stop acting like it’s a rumor. the problem is real, it’s already here, they’re already crashing to build the data centers - so what, we can get taylor swift grok porn?
That’s stanford graph is based on queries from 2022 and 2023 - it’s 2025 here in reality. Wake up. Times change.
That’s stanford graph is based on queries from 2022 and 2023 - it’s 2025 here in reality. Wake up. Times change
Objective polling shows attitudes about AI were improving. Do you have any actual evidence to support your implication that this is no longer the case?
Being self-righteous, rude and abrasive doesn’t mean you’re correct.
You disregard everyone else’s evidence but expect us to embrace your two year old data.
you disregard what mental health experts are saying this is doing to actual people.
You callously disregard the wellbeing of others for the benefit of aibros. Just because you’re ignoring the evidence doesn’t mean you’re correct numpty. Being willfully ignorant of the harms caused to the environment from this just tells me you’re profiting off of it, or a fanboy.
They are a massive privacy risk:
I do agree on this, but at this point everyone uses instagram, snapchat, discord and whatever to share their DMs which are probably being sniffed by the NSA
Not clicking on a substack link. Fucking Nazi promoting shit website
This can be called not a technology, but a weapon for killing in my opinion.
AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you’re a hypocrite.
Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ahh so are you going to acknowledge the privacy invasion and brain rotting cause by Ai or are you just going to focus on dismissing the environmental concerns? Cause I liked more than just the environmental impacts.
Draces@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Uh dismissing that concern seems like valid point? Do people have to comprehensively discredit the whole list to reply?
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Texas has just asked residents to take less showers while datacenters made specifically for LLM training continue operating.
This is more like feeling bad for not using a paper straw while local factory dumps all their oil change into the community river.
AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe they should cut down on Beef first
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
your source about beef relies on poore-nemecek 2018, a paper with dubious methodology
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You’re getting downvoted for speaking the truth to an echo chamber my guy.
Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
But he isn’t speaking the truth. AI itself is a massive strain on the environment, without any true benefit. You are being fed hype and lies by con men. Data centers being built to supply AIs are using water and electricity at alarming rates, taking away the resources from actual people living nearby, and raising the cost of those utilities at the same time.
realtor.com/…/ai-data-centers-homeowner-electric-…
Sl00k@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
This is valid to all data centers serving all websites. Your take is a criticism of unregulated capitalism, not AI.
Beef farming is a far far far more impactful discussion, yet here we are.
Draces@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And your car or flight is a massive strain on the environment. I think you’re missing the point. There’s a way to use tools responsibly. We’ve taken the chains off and that’s obviously a problem but the AI hate here is irrational
absentbird@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The problem is the companies building the data centers; they would be just as happy to waste the water and resources mining crypto or hosting cloud gaming, if not for AI it would be something else.
In China they’re able to run DeepSeek without any water waste, because they cool the data centers with the ocean. DeepSeek also uses a fraction of the energy per query and is investing in solar and other renewables for energy.
AI is certainly an environmental issue, but it’s only the most recent head of the big tech hydra.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Do you really think those data centers wouldn’t have been built if AI didn’t exist? Do you really think those municipalities would have turned down the same amount of money if it was for something else but equally destructive?
What I’m hearing is you’re sick of municipal governance being in bed with big business. That you’re sick of big business being allowed to skirt environmental regulations.
But sure. Keep screaming at AI. I’m sure the inanimate machine will feel really bad about it.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
The same can be said for taking flights to go on holiday.
Flying emits way exponentially more CO2 and supports the oil industry
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
AI uses 1/1000 the power of a microwave.
Are you really sure you aren’t the one being fed lies by con men?
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Rockstar games developing GTA5: 6k employees 20 kwatt hours per square foot esource.bizenergyadvisor.com/…/large-offices 150 square feet per employee unspot.com/…/how-much-office-space-do-we-need-per…
18,000,000,000 watt hours
vs
10,000,000,000 watt hours for ChatGPT training
washington.edu/…/how-much-energy-does-chatgpt-use…
There are more 3d games developed each year than companies releasing new AI models.
Sl00k@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
This echo chamber isn’t ready for this logical discussion yet unfortunately lol
CXORA@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
When someone disagrees with me - echo chamber.
When someone agrees with me - logical discussion.
Sl00k@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Then why are you guys avoiding a logical discussion around environmental impact instead of spouting misinformation?
The fact of the matter is eating a single steak or lb of ground beef will eclipse all most peoples AI usage. Obviously most can’t escape driving, but for those of us in cities biking will far eclipse your environmental impact than not using AI.
Serving AI models aren’t even as bad as watching Netflix, this counterculture to AI is largely misdirected anger that thrown towards unregulated capitalism. Unregulated data centers. Unregulated growth.
Training is bad but training is a small piece of the puzzle that happens infrequently, and again circles back to the unregulated problem.
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hypocrisy can be called the primitive nature of man who chooses what is easier because he is designed that way. Human is like a cancerous tumor for the planet.