Israel is missing from the picture
The lamest countries
Submitted 11 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to [deleted]
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d01f3e54-0e45-4a7b-a253-e8aadaa236a5.jpeg
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NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 11 months ago
ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Israel didn’t start the war.
NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 11 months ago
People like you always seem to wanna start the story at October 7th while ignoring any relevant history before it. In case you don’t know, israel and the zionist project took over Palestinian land and as a result almost a million Palestinians fleed palestine. Amongst many others who were killed. What I find interesting is that zionists in their correspondance with the British at the time is that they weren’t pressed about getting palestine to be their homeland, they were okay in finding somewhere else. One of the other possibilities was Uganda for example.
febra@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes it did when it started the settler colonial project and ethnic cleansing campaign in 1948 and all the subsequent oppression.
KermitLeFrog@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The lack of imperial Japan in this image is disturbing
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
At least imperial japan no longer exists. Anyone flying the flag is seen as a nationalistic weirdo by normal Japanese people.
KermitLeFrog@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah totally. But if you dare even insinuate that Japan was anything other than a victim of WW2, the public outcry is so massive that you will be forced to publicly apologize and denounce your previous statement
Rubanski@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s a pity, because the design (!) is pretty rad
hark@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, only the geopolitical enemies of the west are bad.
MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes.😎
calavera@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Do they play victim? It doesn’t look like
Ardiente@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
Noob here, can guess Russia with ukraine but can anyone supply the full list for context on this meme ?
Stovetop@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The other two flags are North Korea (left) and Serbia (right).
North Korea began the Korean War by invading South Korea. It didn’t end well for them (or for the South, for that matter) but South Korea prospers today while the North is…well, North Korea.
For Serbia, it is one of the many states formed from the dissolution of Yugoslavia. Going from one country to several countries which were defined mainly by ethnic association was not a clean transition. There were Serbs living in other former Yugoslav countries, and Serbia used that justification to start occupying those majority-Serbian areas, similar to what Russia has been doing with Ukraine, Transnistria, South Ossetia, and to a lesser extent Abkhazia.
dfc09@lemmy.world 11 months ago
More specifically with Serbia, they were genociding until NATO stepped in and bombed them, and have spent the last 20+ years crying about how NATO was the big bad boogie man who attacked first, while simultaneously trying to destabilize Kosovo through frequent Russian backed violations of the MTA that ended the open conflict. Literal government policies of a schoolyard bully.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 months ago
South Korea at the time was run by actual fascists, people often originally put in charge by the prior Japanese occupation who helped genocide their own people and kept by the “democratic” Allies because, being fascists, they really hated commies.
It’s also simply disingenuous to pretend North Korea’s economic problems aren’t mostly caused by the embargo they’ve been under for seventy years.
Does that make North Korea the victim?
Well, not really, but on the other hand, you can certainly understand the invasion.
Unlike some people, they actually were invading fascists. Ones that actually were their people’s oppressors, and even to this day most Koreans consider themselves a divided nation and support reunification, unlike Russia and Ukraine or Serbia and literally everyone else from the former Yugislavia because the Serbs were dicks.
From that point of view it’s certainly easier to understand why they would portray themselves as victims compared to people who just want to conquer and genocide their neighbors.
But time is funny, you become what you hate, etc.
Can’t really say Marxist-> Feudal Monarchy is the typical trajectory though.
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 11 months ago
lol Serbians don’t need a majority. If there were two Serbs and a cup living in a given city, Serbia would claim it and ethically cleanse the shit out of it.
Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
North Korea - Korean war and Serbia - Yugoslav wars
hillosipuli@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Korean war and probably Kosovo war (or Yugoslavia wars in general) for Serbia
joyjoy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Not pictured: Japan (obvious reasons)
M0ty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
add hamas to this picture
Snoozemumrik@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes, history started 7th October. Very smart
count_dongulus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, it started in 1948. And it was started by several Arab nations, who invaded immediately after Britain released their mandate in the region protecting Israelis.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War
Heard of the six day war? How about the Yom kipour war? Who started any of them?
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ah yes, the good ol “they deserved it”
Aux@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You mean Israel.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
NK shouldn’t be here
Ambiorickx@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The number of tankies in this thread is just epic
Arelin@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
So, pointing out that the US carpet bombed North Korea with 635,000 tons of bombs, killed 20% of their population and turned all remaining infrastructure to rubble is “tankie” now?
You guys just can’t see non-westerners as human.
crackajack@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Two wrongs don’t make a right, you cow.
OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The amount of zionists in this thread is staggering. Apparently fighting back against oppressors is a bad thing.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
The number of people who don’t think Israel should exist always amazes me.
bigFab@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I think the statistics show it all in the Korean case. May be lot of tankies here, but they’r bringing factual data.
Doorbook@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Nice post was able to find many pro genocide and colonization users here to be labeled as “idf” or “Zainoist”
OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 11 months ago
People’s views on NK and how it got there are a surprisingly good indicator of their views on Palestine.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
You guys I bit off more than I can chew
byroon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Great shitpost 👍
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Ehhh the Korean war is complicated. It started with Japan invading Korea and attempting to erase their history and culture. (Worth noting that America gave them the green light on this). After WW2, Korea was divided and backed by US/USSR interests on either side. It was a shitshow with everyone disagreeing how things should be run. Eventually North Korea did invade the South, though, so I guess this meme still applies. But even that fact is unclear - they claim it was retaliatory. Who knows.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Ehhh the Korean war is complicated
North Korea did invade the South
Doesn’t seem very complicated to me
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 11 months ago
oh well if you think it’s simple then please write the historians who cant make sense of it, we don’t know who attacked first
calavera@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It would have been so much easier if instead of splitting Vietnam and Korea, they kept one for each empire to take care of
S_204@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Missing the Palestinian flag there Buddy.
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 11 months ago
*Israeli
S_204@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Another dope who’s swallowed Iran’s Propaganda. Good job. Israel didn’t start it in October, or in '48 or any of the wars in between.
WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I guess Israel were too busy genociding Palestinians to make it to the meeting.
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Maybe Hamas shouldn’t start shit.
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 11 months ago
By your logic, the Innocents killed on 9/11 brought it on themselves.
NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The story doesn’t start on oct 7th.
WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Maybe Israel shouldn’t fund Hamas over secular orgs to manufacture the pretext for the genocide they’re now committing in order to create an ethnostate.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Maybe you shouldn’t talk shit
exocrinous@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Oppression causes terrorism. Israel made Hamas. Why? Because Israel wants an excuse to escalate the conflict