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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My favorite scene in the MCU comes in Captain America - The Winter Soldier.

    Hydra’s toughest badass is holding a gun on an unarmed technician, telling him to set off a weapon.

    The pencil necked nerd boy stands up to the killer.

    “Sorry, Captain’s orders.”

    That’s the point of having heroes. They show us how we’re supposed to behave.

    It doesn’t matter if you’re doing it because you were inspired by Superman, Harriet Tubman, or Toto the dog.

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    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Here here.

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  • content_educator_94@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He also taught us you should drop netanyahu from the sky to make him crap his pants

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    • AskewLord@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that was hawk girl

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      • content_educator_94@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re right thank you for correcting me

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      • teslekova@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They both dropped him. Hawk Girl did not catch him.

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  • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Superman taught me that you have to be born powerful to change the world.

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    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Superman is not superman because he’s a Kryptonian with super powers. Superman is superman because he’s an idealist and selflessly works his ass off every day to uphold those ideals in any way that he can. It just so happens that what he can do is superhuman. But we can all still contribute to an ideal like him. We can refuse to accept the world we have, the would we think we deserve, the world we think is realistic, but instead work toward an ideal world that we push for every day.

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  • snoons@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If a Zionist kills a child in front of me while laughing, being good would be smashing their skull in with a brick.

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    • Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ya but the Zionist has a gun and you have a brick.

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    • leg@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m the type of guy to say we ought to show the goodness of humanity even to our most evil members. But I’m not one to say you’re unjustified for any actions you take when that evil is right in front you, murdering a child. I won’t call your answer good, but I won’t call it wrong either.

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    • Nomad@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Revenge is never good. Look at the American justice system and it’s horrors. All in the name of revenge. instead consider this happened and it may never happen again. So you put him in a prison that treats him humanely and never allows him to harm another soul.

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      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s not revenge to remove evil from the world. What kind of petty projection do you practice?

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  • 5ha99y@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But who defines good?

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    • kubica@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Superman, now stop making questions.

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    • mrmisses@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not Israel, republicans, Putin, or North Korea

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    • bryophile@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah sounds kind of problematic to do whatever you think is good “no matter what the world tells you”.

      Morality is born from a collective. Typical American superheroes with their shallow ideals.

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      • blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If only there were decades worth of stories where Superman’s morality was defined and expanded upon to provide a reasonable template that lends to genuine analysis even in academic and philosophical studies.

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      • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sir. This is a Wendy’s

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    • 5ha99y@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So Homelander defines good? The “the boys” equivalent of superman.

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also Hawk Girl is a based mother fucker

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  • spacegoat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Superman taught me to not nut in my coffee

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  • Cattail@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll teach you to say fuck you to all the people that tell you to be mean

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  • Bieren@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Woke!!!

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  • andMoonsValue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t get it, where is the depressing punchline?

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Superman is not Hollywood IP. Superman is the creative product of two Jewish-American boys born to immigrant families who created an icon of human potential, of righteousness and justice and service to others, at a time when such Ubermensch ideas were being twisted and used by the Nazis in Germany to dehumanize people like Joe Shuster and Jerry Seigel. They made one of the most recognizable and beloved figures in the last century who remains relevant even now, more than 88 years after his first publication in Actions Comics #1. Hollywood has tried to co-op the character, sure, but it’s hardly ever done right by him. But the character has never just been limited to a silver screen.

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      • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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  • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sure the vast majority of humans are good. just the definition of what is good differs quiet much

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  • reev@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Superman taught me that green rock scary

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    According to Bob Chipman

    Superman only makes sense in the context of a worldview where good is the default setting of the universe and the job of a being of godlike power who aims to do good is to fix things when they break and thwart evil from spoiling the natural state of goodness.

    Because if the universe is not good at its core then the moral responsibility of that same godlike being who wants to do good is to assume power absolutely and make the universe good by force.

    And that’s not Superman.

    I don’t think IRL, good is the default setting of the universe.

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    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Superman would disagree with you. But whether that is naivete or the hope that he represents made manifest, it really wouldn’t matter to him. In a world where the default was pure evil, he’d still be championing an ideal. One that might not ever exist, but it wouldn’t be through lack of trying on his part. And totalitarianism or abuse is his abilities to force his desires would absolutely never fit that ideal.

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    • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you look around in your own life, I bet you will see that the majority of people you actually know seems good.

      Just down turn on the TV. It’s called propaganda for a reason.

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  • that_lightnin@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    🤢

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    • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Whatie?

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, start.

    Start now!

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  • the_q@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Define good.

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  • SirHery@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean yeah, but even if people boast about it, they did something good. I don’t think you absolutely have to idealise it.

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    • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh but you do have to with Superman. That’s the entire point of his character and when stories about him shine; when they’re about pressing morals and not so much a big baddy to fight. He can do about anything he wants, so it kinda’ requires him to be pressed in other ways. Stories that only put him in cliche fights or just have him morally grandstanding are the worst. He is idealized, and that needs to be reconciled with a world that has a lot of grey in it.

      The recent superman movie did a decent job of it, the one with Krypto.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    According to Bob Chipman

    Superman only makes sense in the context of a worldview where good is the default setting of the universe and the job of a being of godlike power who aims to do good is to fix things when they break and thwart evil from spoiling the natural state of goodness.

    Because if the universe is not good at its core then the moral responsibility of that same godlike being who wants to do good is to assume power absolutely and make the universe good by force.

    And that’s not Superman.

    I don’t think IRL, good is the default setting of the universe.

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