Why is Nickleback so hated? I think they made the perfect song for America after 9/11 with Hero.

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• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Legit, it’s the radio play.

  They made easily accessible hard rock. It’s mostly formulaic. That means their stuff got played to death. Anything of theirs that got popular was driven into the ground.

  The hate just spread from there. Yeah, you’ll see people bitch about whatever retroreasoning they’ve applied to it, but without the level of unavoidability involved during their prime, it wouldn’t be hate, just a came that some people don’t like.

  Truth? It’s damn near impossible to tell one album from another. The riffs are pretty generic. There’s no highly technical skill required to cover their songs. They aren’t “fancy”

  But that’s not bad things, unless you’re the sort looking for anything to hate, and want to hate something popular in particular.

  Another truth? Some of the most loved bands out there are no different. AC/DC? Simple hard rock with a formula. Aerosmith? A little less hard, but VERY formulaic since their post run-DMC resurgence. Amon Amarth? C’mon. Okay, AA isn’t at that scale of popularity, but I like them, so they’re in.

  Point being that there’s no complaint anyone makes about Nickelback that can’t be applied to any popular band to some degree. Even my complaint that they have far too many songs that are misogynistic in the lyrics could apply to dozens of other acts.

  The hate? They got over played. Without that, they’d just be another band that some people like and others don’t

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  • PP_BOY_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      Ingredients:

      4 ounces unsalted American butter (about 1/2 cup; 113g), softened to about 65°F (18°C) 4 ounces light brown sugar (about 1/2 cup, firmly packed; 113g) 3 1/2 ounces white sugar, preferably well toasted (about 1/2 cup; 100g) 1/2 ounce vanilla extract (about 1 tablespoon; 15g) 2 teaspoons (8g) Diamond Crystal kosher salt; for table salt, use about half as much by volume or the same weight (plus more for sprinkling, if desired) 1 3/4 teaspoons baking powder 1 teaspoon baking soda Pinch of grated nutmeg 2 large eggs (about 3 1/2 ounces; 100g), straight from the fridge 10 ounces all-purpose flour (about 2 1/4 cups, spooned; 283g), such as Gold Medal 15 ounces assorted chocolate chips (about 2 1/2 cups; 425g), not chopped chocolate; see note 8 1/2 ounces raw walnut pieces or lightly toasted pecan pieces (shy 1 3/4 cups; 240g)

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  • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think that, along with it, no one really loved Nickelback. They came in at the right time with the right sound which was ok to listeners. When they started getting overplayed, there wasn’t a major fan base who still wanted to keep listening.

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I dig. They aren’t AC/DC with that built up history of bangers. Nor did they have the time to grow organically before they got huge.

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• MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s just bland rock and bland is worst thing a rock band can be.

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• hedders@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because they're completely beige.

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  • Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is the best goddamn description of Nickelback I’ve ever seen.

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• cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think it might be anti-Canadian stuff. Justin Bieber and Céline Dion got some of the same treatment, though Avril Lavigne and Alanis Morrissette did not.

  Or it’s just a meme.

  Nickelback have never been bad. Boring, maybe. Generic, sure. But a lot of bands are generic and boring sometimes.

  I don’t much care for Hero, but I think the hits off All the Right Reasons (Photograph, Far Away, Rockstar, Animals, etc) were all pretty solid. Never Again is a classic to me, especially the spoken part (“Father’s a name you haven’t earned yet / You’re just a child with a temper / Haven’t you heard don’t hit a lady? / Kicking your ass would be a pleasure”)

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  • nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    uhhhh idk I’ve never really heard any serious anti-canadian rhetoric living in the US my whole life… maybe it’s regional?

    all I’ve ever heard is “oh they’re too nice say sorry too much” which I’ve never thought was even a little serious

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    • cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I assumed it came from South Park. So, not serious.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For what it’s worth, I think most Americans just assume that Canadian celebrities are USian until they find out otherwise.

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• Feyd@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think it’s more a meme than people actually hating them that much

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• cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I prefer system of a down for that.

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM

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• UsefulInfoPlz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t hate them but at the time people said all their music sounds the same. I can see that a bit. But mostly people just love to gang-hate.

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• Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Haters gonna hate

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• VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bland.

  As someone that pops a few Nickelback and Creed tunes on the playlist every now and then, they’re just bland. No risks taken, no muscles stretched, just generic rock trying to summarize the sound of the decade before it.

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• Drbreen@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The hate that Nickelback initially received was only because it was ‘cool’ to hate Nickelback. It had nothing to do with their music, there is even documentaries about it on YouTube.

  But much later on, there was something else they did to make people actually hate (for an actual reason) cant remember what it was now.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I remember hearing that it started because MTV or Comedy Central was going to have a big comedy special, and the ad that they played non-stop to promote it featured Brian Poseiehn (Sp?) cracking a joke that Nickleback sucks. It got played over and over, and it wrecked Nickelback’s rep.

    Now we just get vague explanations like “They’re bland,” as if that doesn’t describe literally EVERY 21st century rock band.

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• dingus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  People love to hate on things that get popular. Tale as old as time. It’s “cool” to hate something that is trendy.

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• rabber@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bandwagon. Hating nickelback is the safe “correct” opinion

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• sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “There goes my hero, watch him as he goes” is nickelback?

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  • VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “My Hero” is Foo Fighters, “Hero” from Spider-Man is by Nickelback. Or rather, Chad Kroeger ft. Josey Scott.

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• yyyesss@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  their music is so generic and uninventive that you can play two different songs at once and they’re the same song

  m.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8

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• kubok@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I do not hate Nickelback per se, but aside from the blandness which has been mentioned already, they also look like as if they are actually an easy listening band who pretend that they are rock artists. Using the word 'cosplay' here would be offensive to actual cosplayers.

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• AmazingSUPERG@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think it was because they were on the radio so much and their songs sounded the same. They found a musical formula and milked it.

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• TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well donny, like most of your posts, you also have bad taste in music

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• radiofreebc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve met them a couple of times and they’re the nicest guys. I just think other musicians hate them because they wished they had a winning formula for hits like they do, and non musicians hate them because the radio loved them back in the day…and they were just saturated with them.

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