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Baldur's Gate 2's co-lead designer was asked to make Baldur's Gate 4 after Larian declined: 'Having to compete against Baldur's Gate 3? That would be insanity'

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨simple@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/baldurs-gate-2s-co-lead-designer-was-asked-to-make-baldurs-gate-4-after-larian-declined-having-to-compete-against-baldurs-gate-3-that-would-be-insanity/

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  • KindaABigDyl@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Here’s how it’s gonna go down:

    1. Hasbro sells Wizards of the Coast to Microsoft
    2. Microsoft forces Obsidian to make BG4 a. Sidenote: Blizzard will take over MtG mobile
    3. Microsoft forces Obsidian to imbue BG4 with AI generated slop throughout and make it a live service game somehow
    4. BG4 flops hard
    5. Microsoft shuts down Obsidian
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    • TwinTitans@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You could insert so many different companies they’ve acquired into that… so sad.

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    • BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Microsoft would have to buy hasbro in it’s entirety because wotc is the only piece worth anything, they’d never drop it. Other than that, disgustingly plausible. Could imagine microsoft buying hasbro just for wotc and shutting everything else down

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    • twilightwolf90@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I wish that happened… Because it would be karma. You should check the employment history of hasbro’s execs. Chris Cocks? Ex-microsoft. Before him? Cynthia Williams? Ex-msft.

      And whatever you do, do not read this interview unless you want to be super pissed. theverge.com/…/hasbro-toys-games-magic-exodus-ai-…

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    • mursejoy@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This is hilarious. I doubt Microsoft buys anymore IP at this point. Seems like they are failing hard but who knows they make the craziest decisions.

      Either way it’ll end in layoffs.

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      • oyo@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Even if everything they did from now on was wildly successful there would be layoffs.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      depressingly plausible. I’ve long wondered if microslop was hoarding studios, or just gobbling up IP…

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    • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also. Somehow… Loot boxes. After a call from EA.

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    • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      All this after they pack on debt and extract all the money from it.

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    • TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      God, comparing the cast of characters from outer worlds 1 (didn’t touch 2 so I won’t judge) to BG3, that would just be cruel to make obsidian follow up bg3. Lambs to the slaughter.

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  • Jyrdano@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Id rather see NWN 3, or even better yet,

    hear me out

    something new.

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    • altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      NWN 3: The Winter

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I have it on mostly dead authority that it’s coming!

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    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Give me Dark Sun!

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    • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Dungeons and Dragons: Birthright.

      Let’s do it! Bring us back to Aebrynis!

      I’m probably the only person out there who wants this. Some pen pusher would compare it to kingmaker which is just not the same at all.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Aebrynis

        Is that Elvish for “Ay! Bronies!” ?

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Given the success of BG3 it would be very hard to do BG4 successfully, and another studio will get raked over the coals for anything not as good, which is a very high bar. It’ll be first dismissed as Hasbro continuing to ruin D&D, then the studio will get called crappy and hit their reputation.

    Hasbro/Wizards could instead have a few other studios build out some smaller standalone campaigns for half or a third the target price and see what sticks.

    Imagine a Phandelver or Ice Spire Peak, or a Waterdeep series of campaigns with a smaller world and more linear story progression (you still need player choices to matter) — get the core mechanics right, build up some tight stories that players respond to, THEN take it open world with many characters and after that build out BG4.

    BG2 to BG3 was a long ass time. I think fans would prefer BG4 done well even if it takes longer than having to pretend there is no BG4 in Ba Sing Se

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    • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Even if they really want to use an existing series for the brand recognition, they could do Neverwinter Nights or Icewind Dale or something.

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      • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        IMO Don’t try to make a sequel, just make another story in the world. Call it Baldur’s Gate: GameTitleGoesHere

        I’d take IWD though, I loved those games and own physical box copies I picked up at compUSA, and i’d even take it as a combat heavy spinoff with light story, just like the first one. Getting bogged down with dialogue in every city is a turnoff for me as much as I adore BG2/3. Was so nice bringing my own party and exploring the world, one dead beetle, lizardman or undead at a time.

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      • ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Ooh, another Icewind Dale would be amazing. It’s been 26 years.

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That is kinda funny. My advice on how to save Halo was very similar. Smaller more focused campaigns. One big multiplayer every one can play.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    To be fair, bg3 is more Divinity Souls 3 than BG3…

    They just slapped some BG paint on top of it.

    Trying to find a studio that can make a sequel to that isn’t going to work out well. They need to make the tough call of finding another studio that will take the franchise and make a good game how they know how to make a good game.

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    • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I would love it if someone made a modernized successor to BG2. Real-time with pause. Probably something other than D&D 2.x - then again maybe something based on an osr ttrpg ruleset could be interesting (look, I just don’t like thac0). At least a full 6 member party, and full party control.

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      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        They’re gonna learn all the wrong lessons from bg3 and copy it

        The lesson should be to let studios do what they’re good at. They need to find a good studio they trust, give them BG4, and trust them to make a good game even if fundamentally different than bg3 or bg2.

        It’s the antithesis of COD or Madden that release carbon copies every year, give people a new game with a familiar setting

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  • justdaveisfine@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I suspect Hasbro went ahead and continued offering BG4 to studios until one of them took the bait.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Classic Hasbro trying to brute force success when they have no clue what they‘re working with. One can only hope nobody takes on the project when Hasbro approaches them. Best thing that could happen is that nobody really cares and the game is forgotten quickly since it would be nothing like any of the other BG games. Worst case it tarnishes the franchise forever.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s only insanity if you don’t have ideas and can’t think logically about how the player could do any given thing in the game.

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