I want enough to get my car working in perfect condition. A person that will sell their drawing display to me, and update my clothes. Maybe like 2 weeks of food
I'm not asking to be rich.
Submitted 1 year ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to workreform@lemmy.world
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Destraight@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Haha@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It buys happiness and I full on want money so financial security covers my ass. Money brings SECURITY and I need SECURITY TO BE HAPPY. End of.
qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
I knew a person that made a lot of money. And I mean a lot of money.
Left home at six in the morning, 5 days of the week, returned home after nine in the evening. Tons of benefits. Company car. Monthly and travel expenses. Cellphone. Computer. Tools and equipment. Uniform and safety gear for required context.
Divorced three times. Wasn’t around to be a parent for 3 children. Lost family and friends to favor work and career. One day, woke up old, alone and miserable but on any way used to measure it, very rich.
Spent the last decade of life spending money in an atempt to fill the void of not having no one of significance in the world.
Money didn’t bought or even rented happiness. It bought cars, cruises, hookers and enough alcohol to fill an olympic swimming pool. But happiness? Out of stock.
waz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Money doesn’t solve all of your problems. It only solves money problems. Money is great at solving money problems, but once you run out of money problems to solve, you’ve taught yourself that money solves problems. So you try to use money to solve every problem and learn that there are some problems money can’t solve.
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In other words, having money solves specifically the problems created by money, but none other.
OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well said.
snooggums@kbin.social 1 year ago
Excessive amounts of money doesn't by happiness.
Kind of like how money is not the root of all evil. The love of money is root of all evil. Or how power doesn't really corrupt good people, but it certainly attracts corrupt people and allows terrible people to act on their terrible ideas.
SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Money buys liberty. Choices buy happiness. If you have more money, you have more choices available to you.
If money bought happiness there would be no sad rich people, but there are plenty of them.
vorber@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
There is this thing - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice that argues that choice does not always bring happiness, and too many choices can even make one less happy.
BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Money can’t buy freedom.
SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t think anything can.
I think the only way to experience true freedom would be to live, alone, on an unrecognised island, or in a space capsule.
The moment you encountered another person, you’d need to establish rules so you could co-exist in peace. No theft, for example.
At which point you aren’t free.
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Well, money generally has been used for exchange of material items and ordering specialized services.
Above the availability of such, relations in community have represented the difference between living decently and living meaningfully.
paddirn@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe not happiness, but it does buy peace of mind.
dmention7@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It irks me when people categorically state money buys happiness as a rebuttal to the old cliche; because it doesn’t, and insisting it does just seems like contrarianism.
Money certainly does solve many problems that cause misery, and removing misery is a essential step on the path to happiness. Isn’t that a noble enough message?
There are loads of people with plenty of money who are not actually happy. So simply saying “money can buy happiness” also minimizes the real problems of real people.
GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is the meme that lives at the intersection of fetishizing and resenting the wealthy!
dmention7@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Damn, that is a great way to put it.
angrymouse@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ppl mix the way that capitalism treat the poor with “money buys happiness”, no, money is just a band aid for some individuals escape the hell.
And while being in the hell has a big impact in your mental health, leaving it does not automatically makes you a happy person.
BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, but you are ASKING others to no longer be rich. If you are paid fairly how will your boss afford his new pet Hippos, are you aware of the amount of landscaping it takes to recreate the nile valley in his humble 2mio acre backyard?
How can you be so cruel?
BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 year ago
general strike
echodot@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Well I’ve just got a chinchilla and those guys are cute little fuckers. So yeah I’m just bought some happiness.
Although possibly if I had spent time be more money tgey would have a less squeaky wheel, so perhaps what money has really bought asleep last nights.
Crystal_Shards64@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My parents lost most of their life savings to a scam. I’ve been helping us get by for the past 5 years now. Recently due to interest rates climbing higher and higher, the only way the bank would allow them to renew their mortgage is if I was signed onto it. With the amount we have to pay monthly now, it’s like my salary was cut to worse levels than when I started. I’ll have $100 extra a month after the mortage and other cost of living expenses are paid. We’ll be cutting it close.
It’s extremely frustrating because my salary certainly is not making up for the increased cost of living. It feels like both my job, and the bank have me by the balls. Truly feeling like a wage slave
K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Money buying happiness is capitalist propaganda to keep you and me too busy to really find happiness
Ejh3k@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My VA rating is the third best thing to ever happen to me. I was doing ok before I got it, now I am doing good. All my bills are always paid, I have money to spend and I’m saving a whole bunch. Get that bag
LemmyInRedditSux@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Employers don’t want to solve our problems. If all of our problems were solved, we wouldn’t go to work anymore. Employers would not like that.
So they pay us just barely enough (or less) to string us along that we have no choice but to keep coming back to work everyday.
Konstant@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Become an employer.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Upvoting because you’re not wrong. But I’d also like to explore the the topic more & maybe (somehow!) find workable solutions.
I have a union job. Certain hours are guaranteed, certain wages are guaranteed. I observe people far enough in life, 40s & 50s, they’ve done the job for 15+ years & don’t have outstanding bills…then they just don’t show up to work. Just as you say! Suddenly they’re “sick” but not, or they just flake.
I don’t mean to worship the terms of employment, but the hours & the wage is part of the job. We do what others are unwilling to do; that’s part of it. Coming from multiple, significantly shittier, non-union jobs, most of me just wants to shout do your job you piece of shit. The job you don’t do, your brothers & sisters are forced to pick up your slack. Do your job, the job you agreed to do, the job you are paid to do & someone else cannot because you currently hold position. And you’re just…shitting all over the job, and other people. So thanks for that.
I can all but guarantee they’re thinking, “…eh. I’ve got enough money. I don’t have to do my job today. And they can’t immediately fire me if I don’t do it.” Then they fucking slack. That’s the problem. How do we fix that??
LemmyInRedditSux@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Employees getting apathetic is an indication of burnout. How about HR sits down & discusses with the employee offering a compromise in exchange for quality reliable work. For example offer the employee 4 days on, 3 days off. Or one week on, one week off, and double their pay which would double their morale & retain their loyalty.
LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I remember reading a study. Dad said that passed a certain threshold, there was no significant increase in happiness compared to the amount of money. However, the low end middle class were getting happier with more money. While the upper class had no  significant increase.
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Helping others who are less fortune certainly seems more supportive of fulfillment than unbounded hoarding.
ava@feddit.de 1 year ago
while yes, being poor probably wouldn’t help, I’d still say that having tons of money wouldn’t somehow cure your depression
LemmysMum@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It sure would suck being able to afford mental health care…
ram@bookwormstory.social 1 year ago
Poverty prevents actually dealing with mental health as one’s mental faculties end up limited to desperate concern for housing and food security.
Smokeydope@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People who make 6 figures with thousands in the bank wondering why they are still miserable: “b-bhut I thought money and owning stuff was supposed to make me happy!” Financial security is but one aspect of finding personal happiness. There people who live in vans scraping by on meager SS who are happy as peaches with their new life. You can be happy and live a comfortable life with very little.
But that’s not what people here want to hear. You see what I say and instantly go “haha yet another corpo shill trying to tell me to be happy with owning nothing” well maybe there’s something to be found in ridding yourself of wants and desires. Learning to be happy with what you have while working towards a little more. Nah that can’t be!
Yearly1845@reddthat.com 1 year ago
haha yet another corpo shill trying to tell me to be happy with owning nothing!
Elric@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You need to suffer real poverty. It is not possible to be happy when you can’t afford food, shelter, medical necessities and other basics. This is obvious. Don’t try and gas light us.
Chetzemoka@startrek.website 1 year ago
There are people living in vans scraping by on meager SS who are happy as peaches with their new life right up until some illness or injury lands them in my hospital unit and they have no option for support except our horrific nursing home system.
Don’t fetishize poverty.
iopq@lemmy.world 1 year ago
www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.nr0.htm
Median weekly earnings of full-time workers were $1,118 in the third quarter of 2023. That means half of all people make above this and half make below.
Most people’s problems would NOT be solved if $1,100 went up to say, $1,300
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
A fair wage is 20$/day.
Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Bullshit. Maybe 20yr ago.
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Im especially NOT talking about your shithole country, but all of them. Be fair. Give up on your 20$/h so everyone in the world can have 20$/day
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A fair wage is when you can afford all basic necessities and have money left over to buy reasonable things that you don’t need but want. Anything below that is not a fair wage.
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Dude you can buy a LOT OF RICE AND BEANS AND VEGGIES LOADS OF EGGS & MORE protein. Things you want come AFTER each of 9.000.000.000 get the aforementioned (and basic shelter, basic clothing, etc). Before half the world doesn’t have that, you have no right to extras.
UNLESS YOU WORK HARD OR SMART FOR IT.
If you 'want"
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I just wanna see what it tastes like… little taste of the glory
debil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve worked hard all my life Money slips through my hands My face in the mirror tells me It’s no surprise that I am Pushing the stone up the hill of failure
- Failure by Swans
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Counterpoint, I am paid above average wage and am still unhappy.
ChexMax@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But imagine how unhappy you’d be if you were in all your same unhappiness circumstances but then your shoes have holes in them. Or your front tooth chips and you can’t afford to fix it and now everyone treats you just slightly worse.
PatFussy@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ahhhh im glad we finally got down to the crux.
People dont want the end of capitalism, they just want money so they can buy shit they dont need because reasons 1, 2 and 3. Im sure I wont get downvoted for this take
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What are you suggesting?
Should we try to accelerate the end of capitalism by pursuing unnecessary suffering and death?
Do you think seeking to end poverty is the same as seeking to live wastefully?
I am genuinely not understanding what conflict you are identifying, or objection you are raising.
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Dude I’m talking about important things and you act insulted like a child. Go f ur granny
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Not agrueing at all that those few should starve, but a container of grain costs 25ct/pound.
Noone will die of hunger.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People literally die of hunger every day.
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Not if they get 20$/ day!
And reduce your income to pay for it. Let’s see, 90% make under 20$/day now So you’ll be left with around 20$/day…
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
Money can’t solve all my problems. It would solve a great many and allow for the pursuit of happiness to go smoother, and stress free; but the money itself will not purchase happiness or make me happier.
EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But how else am I supposed to buy my antidepressants
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
Crime.
lanolinoil@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most of their current problems would be solved but surely they’d make up or create new ones. Otherwise, we’d have just quit after farming probably.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have an idea for a story in which a former businessman, now homeless, has a number of interpersonal conflicts with people who lend him money, dislike him, give him favors to get by, etc. There’s a whole first part based on this strife and drama. Then, a freak situation results in him instantly becoming the head of a nationwide corporation. Every single conflict that existed in the first part is solved in about 3 paragraphs through a quick set of checks he writes.
There’s a lot of general morals in that story, including “Wealth is not necessarily as ‘earned’ as one would think”, but also that a comfortable amount of money really does ease almost all interpersonal relationships.