Hasan Piker, Cenk Uygur Denied Entry to UK Over Palestine Support

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• infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The west has stopped quietly committing genocide against the wishes of it’s people, started forcibly and loudly committing genocide against the desperate cries of it’s people.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And Cenk still won’t change the name of his media organization from the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide he spent most of his life denying…

    Even know, he just admits the Aremenian genocide could be considered a genocide. But refusing to change the name of his company.

    I don’t know how or why genocide deniers are ever considered “the good guys”.

    Loads of conflicts is two groups of assholes fighting.

    But there are podcasters out there who don’t support any genocide too…

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    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Omg shut the fuck up, we know he’s a hypocrite. Everyone here agrees with you. But this is a much larger issue than one dildo’s genocide denial. You’re effectively muting discussion about ever-more authoritarian western governments unilaterally silencing dissent in favor of your pet soapbox. I’m willing to bet that everyone in this thread is 100% in agreement with you about Cenk but for the love of god please have a sense of priorities.

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• frankPodmore@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I actually agree with Novara that Piker shouldn’t be barred from entering the UK but this headline is very misleading.

  The UK government has said the ban is because of his use of ‘“antisemitic tropes, such as the claim that Israel controls America” and comments about grooming gangs he made on Piers Morgan’s YouTube show’ and because of his support of a ‘proscribed terror group’ (i.e., Hamas). Nothing to do with his support of Palestine (I don’t think that Hamas represents Palestinian.s any more than I think that Putin’s party represents Russians).

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• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t even like Hasan, it’s annoying how much “moderates” have forced me to be on his side lately.

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I love Hasan. I wish more privileged voices were as concise and consistent and forceful on left issues like he is. If there were several dozen more people like him we wouldn’t all have to couch our support for their advocacy with a milquetoast disclaimer about how we don’t even like them.

    Hell, I’m a vegan and an anarchist. He regularly throws those aspects of my identity under the bus to offer a fig leaf to the unconvinced in his audience so that they listen to more central leftist ideas, and still I love him for that. He has millions of followers, I cannot fathom how impactful he has been to leftist advocacy all over the world in the past 5 years. I’m so fucking sick of people putting disclaimers on their support for him. I don’t even sub to him and I love the guy.

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    • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Don’t get me wrong, he seems like a good guy, but react streamers are objectively the lowest form of entertainer.

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    • Varpeggio@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He thinks “ I have a pretty big audience, I better endorse DNC candidates to ensure I don’t push the needle too far left” and that fucking sucks.

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  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The people that need to actively attack Hasan in this day and age are almost categorically active supporters of this current status quo.

    They’re not even just opponents of the left anymore. They’re just present to wreck any civil spaces to cause infighting.

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• teslekova@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Everyone pointing fingers at the name Young Turks had better not be a fan of Blondie or Joy Division.

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• makingrain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Good. We don’t need helmets like that entering our land to spread their ridiculous unrealistic viewpoints.

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• lucidity@hexbear.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  When I told my husband some Labour politician is calling for this he said it’s not going to be taken seriously. He was surprised and dissapointed to find out the country that says it’s terrorism to hold a sign also bans even ultra-centrist Cenk Ughyr for not being a zionist.

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s still weird everyone ignores Cenk named his organization after the perpetrators of the Armenian genocide…

  Armenian Genocide, campaign of deportation and mass killing conducted against the Armenian subjects of the Ottoman Empire by the Young Turk government during World War I (1914–18). Armenians charge that the campaign was a deliberate attempt to destroy the Armenian people and, thus, an act of genocide. The Turkish government has resisted calls to recognize it as such, contending that, although atrocities took place, there was no official policy of extermination implemented against the Armenian people as a group.

  www.britannica.com/event/Armenian-Genocide

  Or that the only reason Hasan has a platform is he’s a nepo nephew…

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  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    ‘Young Turks’ has a more generalized use. It’s even got a disambiguation page on wikipedia.

    en.wikipedia.org/…/Young_Turks_(disambiguation)#P…

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      The swastika is ackshullay an old Indian symbol…

      The Young Turks committed multiple genocides, claiming you named it after a different organization named after the originals isn’t the slam dunk you think it is, especially considering how recent the fucking Armenian genocide is

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the only reason Hasan has a platform is he’s a nepo nephew…

    Hasan’s platform is Twitch and he’s largely built up his following by doing the same influencer circuit as everyone else.

    If he’s got any aces up his sleeze, they’re that he’s gorgeous, he’s quick witted, and he got in on the ground floor when DSA was blowing up

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    • Jax@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hasan’s platform is Twitch and he’s largely built up his following by doing the same influencer circuit as everyone else.

      I don’t think this is correct, both Hasan and Asmongold are a part of Night Media and I’ve seen no attempt by Hasan to leave. Hasan is also weirdly kiddy-gloved when talking about Asmongold, at least it was like this in the past.

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  • 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Go watch more Bad Empanada you fascist

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• SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I sometimes watch TYT with Cenk and I have no clue why the UK decided to ban him over that.

  What a bunch of chocolate starfishes…

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  • vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because UK is a occupied state under Israel.

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  • bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I would bet it’s only because he is a relative of hasan.

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• Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hassan and Cenk do paid agitprop for the UK’s adversaries. Why should any country let them come over and tour around the country undermining the government and bolstering conspiracy and driving extremists on both sides. Bet there here to do their favourite thing, undermine a liberal left government so the far right can win.

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  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    His name is 5 letters long and is right there in the post title and you still can’t get it right. Reminds me of Fox News hosts intentionally stumbling over and mispronouncing “Mamdani”.

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    • Varpeggio@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s just absurd.

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  • vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The UK is not under a liberal left government, and if you think Labor is even close to not being far right you’re actually deluded.

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    • bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      it can’t be far right because it has labour on his name 🤓

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    • Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Labour is far right”, you heard it here first folks.

      Sure, they’re not left enough by any definition, but far right and not even close to not being far right?

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  • lolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    they’re* When you make dumb mistakes on something so easy it makes you look like you’re not well read. If your inane take wasn’t enough, that definitely gives it away.

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