I’ve tried to install windows 11 and it fails lol. I have a 2.0 tpm. I’ll probably switch over to opensuse or mint soon.
How are you using your laptop (with internet) that still runs Windows10?
Submitted 2 days ago by Maroon@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 hours ago
I have TPM disabled in the bios so Windows 11 can’t install itself.
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
What do you mean? Win10 still works. MS didn’t Thanos snap it.
Maroon@lemmy.world 2 days ago
No, I mean is it prone to being hacked now more than before? Or has MS actively pushing updates to worsen it?
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It was simple to the extended security updates for w10 for a year. After Oct, it’ll require payment for another year, up to 3 years total I believe.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
You still need some sort of exploit to be able to hit your machine. If you’re behind a firewall and not raw dogging it on the internet then you’ve got a decent layer of security.
At that point it’s just your web browser (or your brain) that needs an exploit to for something bad to happen. And both chrome and Firefox will be supporting 10 for years to come.
Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
I’m running 10 with no security features as my main gaming system. I turned off as much of Windows defender as I could because it was slowing down texture downloads in Second Life + was trying to say my fan control software was malware.
I hope I get a virus because it’ll be the final tug I need to fully cover to linux. I just converted a 10 year old laptop to linux mint to run as a server since everything is getting enshittified and requiring monthly fees, like Mint the budgeting app, so I’m dipping my toe into self-hosting.
I have nothing to lose.
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 days ago
No windows 10 left in the house.
Mint, Debian. Dual Boots are now all off. Couldn’t be happier. It was a pain getting everything setup correctly, but wow. I love having an OS that only does what I tell it.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
By turning it on.
What am I saying, it never gets turned off.
mynamewastakenagain@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
The slew of recent zero days in everything from the Linux kernel to Firefox warrant urgent patching…
alakey@piefed.social 2 days ago
Same way you’d use a phone that’s EOL. Even my old ass EOL router still held up because it accepted no incoming calls as if it wasn’t even there. Any other more involved attack vectors would probably fall outside of scope for the people potentially targeting an average person. Where the real danger lies with outdated systems, especially W10 while it’s still fairly fresh, is user error - visit the wrong link or download a wrong file and you are in the world of pain.
twoBrokenThumbs@lemmy.world 2 days ago
There’s multiple good answers in the comments but context can help.
Why do you need to stay on Win10?
Can’t update? Don’t want to update?
Personally I moved to Linux Mint about 2 years ago. My laptop I just switched to Fedora (I think the UI is great on laptops but not a fan on desktops).
Anything Windows exclusive I need to keep around (and there are many reasons but they are highly subjective) I run Windows in a VM.
On top of that, I use ameliorated.io to reclaim the OS as my own and have little issues as far as privacy or security. As such, I didn’t mind updating to Win11. The way the ameliorated version runs is essentially the same as 10. So I get a clean interface (no asinine menu system), secured with admin and user accounts, no telemetry, no bloat. I’m very happy with this setup. If I had to stay 100% on windows for some reason this is how I’d run it.
davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Did you try the KDE plasma environment for fedora on desktop?
twoBrokenThumbs@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I did not. But that’s basically because I had a similar solution with Mint’s Cinnamon. It’s not off the table, and I might test it out eventually. My computing needs and workflows are changing, and the dust hasn’t quite settled yet.
With that said, do you have any pros you like with plasma over gnome?
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
All my laptops are running Linux. Daily driver is currently on Manjaro with a dual boot to a very stripped down Win11 for some professional software with no Linux version.
Main PC is on Mint.
HTPC is on Win10 and I do not give a single shit what happens to that installation. Its purpose is to run Steam and VLC. If it gets a virus, it gets a virus. If it steals my info and sends it to China, then someone in China will know I play Jackbox games and watch weird arthouse Japanese movies. I could not care less.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I did the free extended update. Will probably swap to the iot version later this year.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 days ago
By telling win 11 to constantly to fuck off.
You can still safely browse the internet with an adblocker and don’t download unofficial software. Only idiots and security people raw dog a windows machine online without a firewall and a NAT gateway.
What is your real question?
OpieSmith1@lemmy.world 2 days ago
NAT is not a security feature. Just use a gateway with a proper firewall.
adarza@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
we still have some win10 here. not too worried given who is using them and for what purposes. we’ve retired from some of our work so we don’t have or access any sensitive data (medical records mostly) anymore.
if you need it, try to score the extra update time for ‘free’ (check settings-windows update for the offer). i’ve done that for a few people and it didn’t even mess up their ‘backup’ status… but do check to make sure it’s off if you do that method. there are other ‘methods’ but idk if LW lets you discuss them.
Sexy-Animal-Fucker@thebrainbin.org 2 days ago
I'm not
webp@mander.xyz 21 hours ago
With a hammer
PlzGibHugs@piefed.ca 1 day ago
I’ve been slpwly transitioning everything to Linux. I’ve been using Kubuntu so far, but have been encountering enough issues that I might have to go back and redo it with a new distro at some point.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I recommend Fedora Kinoite if you have a newer device, Debian KDE if you need stability and have a slightly older device, and Zorin if you have something sort of in between and need professional support.
(Oh and Bazzite if you’ll be gaming on something newer or PikaOS if gaming on something older)
Pazintach@piefed.social 2 days ago
We still need Windows 10 to run things. So I switched those systems to LTSC.
hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 days ago
just install ltsc its easy
HubertManne@piefed.social 1 day ago
Its kinda dumb but I have this stuff setup and to move it to linux I need to buy a new drive and I have literally zero disposable income.
forestbeasts@pawb.social 21 hours ago
I don’t know if this helps at all, but you actually don’t need to buy a new drive! You can install Linux next to Windows on the same drive, it works perfectly fine.
(You will need something to put the installer on though, and USB sticks do cost money, so.)
– Frost
HubertManne@piefed.social 17 hours ago
yeah would be great if that was my particular thing. I overwrote windows and use an older machine for windows currently. I will need a new drive but I don’t really want to go into details with the niche thing im doing. Im actually moving from an ubuntu child distro to bazzite. a big issue was how appimages would work and I thought I had a big issue until I finally realized its an issue with how google does chrome. its looking good. taking a sit down before I finish it off. the chrome issue seems to be fixed by killing various caches it keeps btw (or for someone who comes across this and kinda has the same issue).
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I couldn’t find a Tiny10 ISO anymore to share with you… Let me upload next week and I’ll paste it here. :)
Meanwhile, just nuke a normal ISO with: https://christitus.com/windows-tool/
unitedwithme@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Interesting! This does a lot of what I’ve always done by hand lol. What a time saver!
akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
gukleszl4hs48ughgxhr5xgd@fedia.io 2 days ago
I'm not using windows 10, but you can use a version which is still getting security updates.
InternationalHermit@lemmy.today 1 day ago
The laptop I received from work still runs win 10. I don’t think work it cares one bit, and I suspect I will get a win 11 replacement only if this one dies.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
By installing Linux on it
adarza@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
debian trixie was released at just the right time, about two months before win10 went on life support.
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
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Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Mint on the laptops. Bazzite on the gaming PCs
Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Mint on the laptops. Bazzite on the gaming PCs
uuj8za@piefed.social 2 days ago
Yep. Recently convinced my brother to install Fedora Silverblue on it.
osanna@lemmy.vg 6 hours ago
Is it… could it be…. The year of the Linux desktop??