Submitted 2 days ago by restingOface@quokk.au to [deleted]
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If I recall correctly, the guy who created the Twelve Step recovery program was inspired to do it (I think to him it was actually a religious experience) from an LSD trip, which ended up helping him quit drinking.
So, this is technically what happened to him: Drugs told him to stop taking drugs.
He kept taking LSD after he was “sober”
Psychedelics are just kind of like that sometimes
Mushrooms can tell you if they want to, very firmly, that it’s time to hang up the phone
I once saw mushrooms described as “the most forensically accurate character assassination known to man”
Which is why I think it’s very important that everyone try them, or at least westerners
I literally had mushrooms make me stop taking drugs. Absolutely destroyed my ego that night and I never touched anything again. Well I tried to smoke weed a couple of times after that but it just gave me severe panic attacks. Even the thought of taking mushrooms again gives me chills. I had taken them hundreds of times and I guess they just finally said, “you’re finished. You’ve completed drugs.” I am still an advocate for psychedelics though, they have so much to offer.
I know it’s hard to describe such things but what is ego death like? Is it smashing free will illusion or something?
For me it was more like actual death. I quite literally thought I was dying and begged my wife to call 911. Fortunately she is experienced and did her best to keep me contained.
Started with time becoming very mixed up or out of order. She was answering questions I hadn’t asked yet and I was perceiving reality as a single experience rather than a normal flow of action/reaction like everything was happening all at once.
Like you said, there are not words for this, language is far too simple to convey the idea but it humbled me to the point of non-existence.
I knew for a fact that life was not a series of events, it was all the same event happening in a singular moment totally separated from any idea of time as we normally perceive it. At that point it no longer mattered if I was dying/dead/alive… I was all of those things. Always have been.
Eventually I could no longer speak or even walk. Speaking, walking, thinking, all of that implied a forward flow of time which no longer was the case for me. My wife said I just laid on the ground eyes wide and filled with tears. She said she tried to talk to me and keep me calm but I never responded at all. She even put her Fitbit on me just to be sure my vitals were good, which of course they were.
What started as terrifying simply became so intense I couldn’t even fear anything any longer. I just…was but also wasn’t.
That lasted for about 30 minutes per my wife’s judgement. It was infinite for me at the time. Even after the peak it took several hours before I could speak correctly or form content thoughts.
Next day I knew for certain I was done with all drugs. I didn’t need them anymore. Never did really.
I wish I could tell you what is was like but all I can really do is explain certain simple ideas such as what I said above. We are the universe experiencing itself subjectively and the idea that I or anyone is actually important is exceedingly ridiculous.
I attribute mushrooms to finally breaking my years long journey as a fairly committed alcoholic.
The decisions or realizations people can have during an intense trip tend to be really sticky for a very long time regardless if it’s a good trip or a bad one. It’s the nature of the beast.
But mushrooms be like you described sometimes. I won’t go near the dosages I was taking when I was kicking booze. 1-2 grams every once in a while is just fine for me.
After my last power trip (+5 grams) I saw what I needed to see and probably will never go in that range again. It was a life changing trip and thankfully not a bad one. However, when the mushrooms speak to you like that, you listen. They told me I was done and I was ready to heal on my own.
That’s awesome. They are very powerful and very wise. The insight they can afford people come with such clarity you can literally feel like a giant idiot when facing your struggles or addictions. It’s a shame we can’t always see through the fog of our problems in such a way but I am eternally grateful that this planet came with its own troubleshooting tools.
I’d like to share this inspirational quote by Basquiat who OD’d aged 27:
“They tell me that the drugs are killing me, then I stop, and then they say my art’s dead.”
“When you get the message, hang up the phone” – Alan Watts
It’s worth mentioning that Alan Watts was a chronic alcoholic who drank himself to death in his 50s. Maybe he should have picked that phone back up from time to time.
Alcohols not a drug, stupid! /S
My doctor tells me to take drugs.
But they’re boring drugs for hypertension.
I believe people should try drugs, because IMO, it’s part of a full human experience, and it can really help you to understand how subjective our experiences are, but of course if people don’t want to, that’s totally understandable.
I can’t remember if anyone ever told me to stop taking drugs, probably because I was so high on drugs
Life can be very enjoyable and drugs can be part of that joy but we’re not just hedonistic pigs chasing the next high, right? Balance, erring on the side of caution and self-control, is better but if not it’s better to just cut it all off. And some things you should never try, of course.
I stopped taking drugs and let me tell you, this world if still awful
I have found that cycling is the next best thing
Oh I thought you meant going sober then back on etc
I wonder what the death rates are like comparably
God, just put me in the grave already.
Keep taking drugs
We talkin Lady Salvia, or machine elves?
isnt that what glp-1 do, gets you to stop taking drugs eventually. try some wegovy or omezpic.
heliotrope@retrofed.com 2 days ago
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MisterFrog@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Salvia is not a walk in the park for the dyslexic, damn
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Salvias the only one I’ve yet to cross off my bucket list
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s still legal in some places I believe. It’s fucking wild too so have someone on standby to keep you grounded. Literally.
Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I loved mushrooms and acid, salvia was terrible. It’s super short and super intense. You may think “well it’s just 5 minutes” but it will not feel like 5 min. If you’re looking to expand your mind, mushrooms and acid are great. If you want to slice your brain in half and put the two halves in two separate dimensions with no personal growth to speak of, try salvia.
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I do not deem it very spiritually valuable. You’re missing a wild ride but not any character development
Egonallanon@feddit.uk 2 days ago
As others have said, don’t waste your time on it. Ultimately an unfun drug.
workerONE@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s terrible, truly awful. Don’t don’t don’t try it
estrange_alien@leminal.space 2 days ago
do more drugs.
Mythbusters: Is meth really all that bad for you?