Not really normalise, but definitely decriminalise.
Drug addiction should be treated as an illness, not a moral failure.
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MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
tomi000@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Recreational drug use and addiction are very different things. I agree that addiction should be treated seriously.
But what you said sounds like saying we shouldnt normalize pedophilia when someone says we should normalize christianity.
Recreational drug use has been normal since way before humans existed. Its just that every culture has its own set of drugs that they consider normal and the Murican war on drugs did a very good job in globally demonizing all drugs not considered normal in their own culture.
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I’m gonna hate myself for writing this but you can’t compare pedophilia and christianity.
One is a very dangerous thing that has destroyed countless lives and the other is an awfully unfornotunate part of human psychology that harms everyone involved with it.
Christianity can be stopped though, pedophilia can be lived with at best.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Oh yeah. Good point, my mistake.
FrustratedArtist@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Found the 3-meo-pcp enjoyer.
king_comrade@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Preach brother preach 🙌
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
legalise all drugs. but each drug should have a tax on it that will be adjusted based on the cost of treatment for rehab or other medical complications.
A drug has little spcietal side effects and is non addictive, practically no tax. a drug is highly addictive and bad for you? it’ll be super expensive to cover for the cost of treatment.
DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
This would promote drug deaths among extremely wealthy people. I like it.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 weeks ago
Kraiden@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Had this conversation a while ago with some friends some rich douchecanoe was trying to start an “enhanced games” where performance enhancers are allowed.
Yes, imho, these should be legalized too. People are gonna use them anyway, just like recreational drugs, and there isn’t a drug on earth that isn’t made safer when it’s users can get pure, known quantities of their substance of choice. It also frees up researches to study the shit that people are absolutely going to put in there bodies anyway. Real science is better than bro science.
to be clear, I’m not saying all sports should now allow performance enhancers, but I think a class for enhanced participants would be hella interesting. Assuming it was backed by legit science and done relatively safely
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
I’ve thought about this a lot and I’ve gone back to being against it. A lot of performance enhancing drugs push your cardiovascular system pretty hard. If everyone is trying to juice as much as possible to win, they’ll end up competing to getting as close to death as possible for our entertainment to achieve the max performance. They’re either killing themselves in the process or shaving decades off their natural lifespans. I don’t know if creating such a system would be ethical.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 weeks ago
Well they already are enhanced, just not busted. With most steroids we already know how long it takes for those to flush out of the system, oddly one of the most studied part and the improvements gotten from enhanced training can be maintained to a degree.
Though i was more on the personal use part. Getting cleaner and actually known substances, as some drugs are rarer but still popular thus those can be laced with other less popular drugs, is going to be better.
Yeah the research part is good as well as currently user experiences and a handful of papers are used to mitigate the negative side effects of steroids which can have flaws and breaks down completely if the affirmationd drug isn’t what it’s supposed to be.
Defectus@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Phenibut is legal in my country.
Doesn’t do much for me but you sleep like a goddam rock. Which is nice
Donkter@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think, like valium, you have to keep yourself awake. Either artificially or somehow through willpower
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 weeks ago
I wanna be able to go down to the corner store and buy a can of LSD.
A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Same but DMT cart
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 4 weeks ago
A keg of both
TootSweet@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It honestly seems like there may be an overall negative correlation between how safe a drug is recreationally and how legal it is to obtain/use it.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 4 weeks ago
Addiction is a nasty thing honesty, we should make hard people ti start in the first place.
Even marijuana who people swore up and down for a long time it was inocuous is now known to have negative brain health effects, sure you can argue that alcohol and smoking are worse, and you are right, but they’re bad too.
IDK, sure some people may have healthy relationships with this stuff, but meet someone who doesn’t, and ask you how much good does to society access to this stuff.
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Maybe but read into the history of prohibition and its pretty clear that ‘making it hard to start’ carries much bigger problems for society than any individual risk of addiction.
Criminalization feeds Black markets, which leads to more organized crime. Also creates stigma which makes addicts less likely to seek out help. I’d you care about addicts, or society, dont advocate for ‘making it harder’. It’s antithetical to those positions, as it doesn’t help ANYTHING.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
yes?
I mean…
yassssssss
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
We should normalize PCP use for prisoners drafted into the military.
Ethic? But think of the oil profits…
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Drug use IS normal, throughout all history
Cannabis, opium, alcohol and more were found in our earliest graves.
Much of this could be bought over the counter for decades… the US drug war is founded in RACISM, as the Europeans preferred alcohol.