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its actually worse bc ports are counted twice for 2.0 & 3.0

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨DanTDM@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • DanTDM@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    someone is going to nerdsnipe me so i will add that technically its 15 registered ports per USB controller, so you can add a dongle and have more than 15. a mobo usually only has 1 USB controller for way more than 15 USB ports though, Apple added this arbitrary restriction for no reason since none of their devices have that many ports. so a typical PC motherboard just straight up destabilizes the system lmfao

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    • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Okay but what kind of application is it used for that you exceed 15 ports filled??

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        but why would you need [thing that is already technically possible and could conceivably be needed]???

        Are you an apple dev?

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      • curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        For my work, I personally have:

        • Webcam
        • Mic
        • Dongle for mouse
        • Dongle for headset
        • Wired keyboard
        • Monitor 2 touchscreen
        • Macropad
        • Ethernet adapter 1 (connection to work network)
        • Ethernet adapter 2 (connection to small switch with no uplinks, for device testing)
        • Ethernet adapter 3 (connection to local avoip network)
        • External drive
        • Microcontroller programmer (universal, let me cut down on a few other adapters I had)
        • Serial adapter
        • Card reader
        • Video capture - analog
        • Video capture - digital
        • Audio interface for xlr I/o and my good headphones
        • NFC reader/writer

        Then a couple of loose cables for connecting the random devices, like a tablet for adb purposes, DSLR, etc. Not including the built-in devices on the laptop which show up as USB devices, like the crappy built-in webcam, microsd only card reader in the worlds stupidest spot, etc.

        I’d say its easy to hit 15 - thats only the USB devices attached to my work laptop.

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      • socsa@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My bukakke VR simulator require between six and six hundred USB devices.

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      • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Off the top of my head: Sensors. E.g. in some underfunded university lab.

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      • DanTDM@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        one physical USB-A socket on the machine can read as two USB ports virtually due to one port supporting USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 at the same time, I believe its a backwards compat thing. I think there might also be internal USB ports as well but don’t quote me on that. On mobos with 8+ physical USB A sockets it can easily get past the 16 limit unless you specifically disable the USB 2.0 port, which then might break older devices relying on that and it becomes a whole headache. this person explains it better than I can

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      • mech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Don’t judge, I need this RAID 0 array of 30 flash drives for my workflow!

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      • expr@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s not actually that hard to get up there. Mechanical keyboard, wired mouse, external drives, headset, webcam, other peripherals, etc. And if you are trying to do anything more involved like music production, you end up needing way more (audio interfaces, midi controllers, etc.).

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      • RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Anyone who produces music with hardware and hasn’t spent the extra money to buy a dedicated MIDI interface.

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      • daggermoon@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m probably past that.

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      • altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Video. If there is something mindlessly excessive, it’s always video. And if you have tree leaves for budget, instead of slightly more expensive hardware controllers or PCIe cards that can combine multiple inputs and outputs, and do it right, you default to cheap usb dongles per device used, and compose them on software level. If you collect inputs from several devices and output these to something like displays on a scene, while also collecting audio from mics, DJ deck, and outputting these too, numbers add up quickly. This clownshow is further expanded by unreliable software, usb power, Microslop Windows in most cases - because pros use it or Mac, no penguins. I have no pride in greatly exceeding what some random PCs could predictably do, for fixing random errors here and there when USB and USB hubs hit their practical ceiling is just another level of Dante’s hell, for all us time- and harware-restricted tinkerers.

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      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I helped run a Kickstarter where one of our rewards was Mac and PC software on custom USB sticks.

        We had a couple hubs set up and cloned the drives 20 at a time.

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    • endlesseden@pyfedi.deep-rose.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “so a typical PC motherboard destabilizes the system” you don’t say. Steve jobs killed the external Macos program they had for GSeries and m68k Mac’s when he came back saying internally “if you let competition thrive you cannot drive demand”.

      so I think we can guess why it’s hard coded lol

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    • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      a mobo usually only has 1 USB controller for way more than 15 USB ports though

      This is not true for the last… many PC motherboards I’ve used. The USB ports are almost always split between the CPU controller and a chipset controller.

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  • Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What in the world kind of job makes you set up a Hackintosh? 😭 while I’m stuck here with company managed Windows on a Thinkpad where I can’t even customise my wallpaper…

    I built and set up mine back in the High Sierra days (hobby project ofc.) I kept it going for years but finally gave up a few months ago; didn’t feel worth it anymore when Intel is on its way out of the Apple ecosystem. Could have easily keep it going it I didn’t care about staying up to date with MacOS major releases.

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What in the world kind of job makes you set up a Hackintosh?

      Probably a contractor role at a company that uses some Mac software in the role they’re hiring for. So it’s more of a situation of “do you have a Mac you can use for this job?”. That’s my guess anyhow.

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    • rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      stuck here with company managed Windows on a Thinkpad where I can’t even customise my wallpaper…

      You are conveniently provided a secure IT infrastructure streamlined toward seamless collaboration and productivity. Please do not resist.

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  • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Huh, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a controller with more than 15 ports anyway. Usually looking through the device manager (or lspci) there are multiple USB controllers on a motherboard (mine has 4 for example) so theoretically you could do 60 ports. Also what can do you about chaining to hubs? Since technically the spec lets to chain up to 127 devices.

    But the bigger question is, what in the world are you doing that’s requiring 15 ports.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      15 mice

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      • QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s called a rat king

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  • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    are hackintoshes still a thing? Are you just using an old Intel MacOS?

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    • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Iirc you can do Ryzen hackintoshes now too.

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      • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Okay but you’re still stuck with an old x86 version of windows,no?

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  • olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think there is a flag in OpenCore, something like XhciPortLimit that you can tweak to fix that, or map your USB ports or something I can’t remember, it’s been so long since I bothered with these kind of stuff

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  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What anime is the Gif from?

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    • norra@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it’s Serial Experiments Lain

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      • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Beep boop, you are correct. I put it into SauceNAO and it said

        Serial Experiments Lain - 5

        TV Series (1998) - 13 Episodes

        ^JP^ Title: リアルエクスペリメンツレイン
        ^EP^ Name: Distortion
        ~Est~ ~Time:~ ~00:15:24~ ~/~ ~00:23:54~

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    • elevenbones@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      At first I thought it was Boogiepop Phantom, but maybe it is Lain…

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  • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you sure? Action Retro built a software RAID from 30 floppy drives connected over USB.

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