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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    it’s

    a badly

    written

    math

    problem

    Seriously, every time this comes up and everyone makes a huge deal out of it, I keep thinking, “none of the people writing these better be teachers.” You have to be more clear than this.

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    • BetterDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no

      it’s

      fucking

      not

      This is just basic algebra, this is actually how the problems in algebra I are written. What the fuck?

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      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Whoa, you went from 0 to 100 on rage super quick. You ok buddy?

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    • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      it’s

      a badly

      written

      math

      problem

      No it isn’t.

      none of the people writing these better be teachers

      I am, and it’s written correctly

      You have to be more clear than this

      It’s already 100% clear to everyone who remembers the rules of Maths

      assumed the math problem was one of the ambiguous ones

      NONE of them are ambiguous

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      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Just patently untrue, but I’m no longer interested in this.

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    • BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not this one, there is no ambiguity here. Order of operations are all good.

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      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re right. I honestly just assumed it was one of those intentionally engagement-baiting posts when I saw it and didn’t even process the problem itself.

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      • Quatlicopatlix@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yea that is true but a lot of these questions use the division sign when they should just use a fraction and everything would have been easy to understand. If i see the devision sign and there are more than 2 elements like x=a÷b+5 i cry because if they just used x=a/(b+5) or x=a/b +5 it is just visible no ambiguity. (a/b as in a over b, idk how to do fractions on the phone if you know tell me!)

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      how should it have been written?

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      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nope, you’re right. I just read the words and assumed it was one of the terrible ones.

        This one is just…math.

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    • VoterFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it’s reasonable if you consider the kind of physical situation it might represent.

      You visit a farm and there are 2 unpackaged apples. There are also 5 packages that hold 8 apples but 5 have been removed from each. How many apples are there?

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      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In fairness, this one isn’t nearly as bad as most of the ambiguous problems that get passed around on Facebook with multiple parentheticals and such.

        Your word problem is excellent.

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  • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You have to subtract the numbers with the most flat sides first and divide by the number of pennies in your sock drawer.

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Something funny about everyone being so eager to show how they can solve this

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the answer is [Answer]

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  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Careful, you’ll summon Smartman Apps (with emojis) to insist mathematics has exactly one perfect unambiguous syntax, where 2*(1+3) is somehow different from 2(1+3), and also reverse Polish notation does-too have parentheses.

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    • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      insist mathematics has exactly one perfect unambiguous syntax,

      It sure does! 😂

      2*(1+3) is somehow different from 2(1+3)

      Yep, one is Multiplication - 2x3 - the other is The Distributive Law - (2x1+2x3) - both easily found in Maths textbooks

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      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Fuck off.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    2+5 is 8, 8-5 is 3. 8×3 is 24.

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    • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      2+5 is 8

      In which you just did Addition before Brackets, and is thus wrong

      8-5 is 3

      5(8-5) is 15

      8×3

      There is no 8x3. 2+5(8-5)=2+15=17

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    • poke@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      2+5=8 quick maths (please don’t fix it, thanks. Hope you’re having a good one)

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    • PhAzE@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      BEDMAS

      do it in the order of brackets, exponents, division, multiplication, addition, and subtraction.

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So, brackets: (8-3) is 5, Multiplication: 5×5 is 25, addition: 25+2 is 27? 🤔

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  • x4740N@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its because its

    2+5×(8−5)

    My calculator app automatically added it when typing in what was I’m the image and “2+5×(8−5)” does equal 17

    It’s absolutely the fault of the person making the social media media post for not writing it properly and confusing people

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    • odelik@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The multiplication is implied and has been part of the standard mathematical notation for far longer than any of us have been alive.

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      • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The multiplication is implied

        No it’s not. It’s explicitly The Distributive Law, a(b+c)=(ab+ac). There is no Multiplication

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    • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Its because its: 2+5×(8−5)

      No it isn’t. It’s 2+5(8−5). Different expression, but in this case co-incidentally the same answer. Preface the first 5 with a Division and you get different answers.

      My calculator app

      Was written by a programmer who didn’t check the rules of Maths first. The only e-calc I’ve ever seen give the correct answer is MathGPT

      not writing it properly

      Except it is written properly, as per Maths textbooks

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    • BattleGrown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      5(8-5) is perfectly fine, it’s like saying 5 apples

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      • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        it’s like saying 5 apples

        5 baskets each with 3 apples actually

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    • axx@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What du you mean, not writing it properly?

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      • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What du you mean, not writing it properly?

        They mean they don’t remember being taught that is the correct way to write it

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    • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have some bad news for you about your education system

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      • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I have some bad news for you about your education system

        It’s not the Education system, it’s people not remembering what they were taught

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  • nomorebillboards@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But 2 + 5 + 8 - 5 is 16 - 5 which is 11

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    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Parentheses first then Division or Multiplication then add or subtract. PEDMAS

      8-5= 3 3*5=15 15+2=17

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      • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        then Division or Multiplication

        There’s neither, only Addition and Brackets (and Subtraction inside Brackets).

        8-5= 3 3*5=15

        Nope. 2+5(8-5)=2+(40-25), The Distributive Law, a(b+c)=(ab+ac)

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    • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gotta distribute:

      2+(8+5)-(5+5)

      2+13-0

      15

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      • SmartmanApps@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Gotta distribute:

        Yes, but…

        2+(8+5)-(5+5)

        You didn’t. 2+5(8-5)=2+(5x8-5x5)

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      • RedAggroBest@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Still not how distribution works. That would be:

        2+((85)-(55))

        2+(40-25)

        2+(15)

        17

        Anything other than 17 is wrong. No matter how you go about your multiplication step.

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      • axx@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Wtf, no, if you distribute you get the same result:

        2 + 5(8 - 5) =

        2 + (5 × 8) + (5 × -5) =

        2 + (40) + (-25) =

        2 + 40  - 25 = 2 + 15 = 17

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  • MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    37

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      67

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      • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Hut hut!

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