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• DharmaCurious@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Poor people should just simply try working for their father’s company for a year and then taking a VP position at a small fortune 500. I don’t understand why they won’t try that, and pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Tsk tsk tsk.

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  • Stupidmanager@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    look, we all know if you click this link here you too can be a millionaire working 6 hours a week. (link withheld because i want to be a millionaire first)

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  • solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They should just tell their daddies to make another film. Please daddy please! 20 million dollars is still 12 million dollars after taxes!

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• solivine@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There’s so many other issues too, such as the fact that old job posts don’t really get removed, employers/recruiters also spam multiple websites with their job posts and forget to check them, and some of the job descriptions don’t even match what you go and sign up for.

  No salaries mentioned on lots of posts, multi stage interviews that somehow demand your free time during work hours, so good luck interviewing for other roles while you have a job. Take home assignments that take multiple hours sometimes, sacrificing a whole evening.

  Recruiters that will ask for all your information again, despite having found your phone number from your CV, and once you go through that, tell you they have nothing for you and that they’ll be in touch.

  Questions that mean nothing in an interview, including acronyms I haven’t used or even heard of outside of interviewing for other jobs, because my job doesn’t need or use them, we just do the work.

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  • iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Job is listed as remote

    During interview they tell you they expect you to move to bumfuck north dakota within 6 months of starting

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    • StopSpazzing@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair, that is remote.

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    • jarfil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Job is listed as remote.

      During the interview they tell you it only required 2 days a week in the office. You tell them you don’t have a car… they reply there are trains from where you live to where the office is located… you look it up and they’re right, it’s just a 2 hour commute each way. You start to think “8 hours a week, is like 1.5 hours a day for 5 days, could be worse…”. Then you realize their hiring process requires 3 more on-site interviews before even getting an offer.

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    • Anamnesis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Got this with Anchorage, Alaska. How are they gonna hoodwink somebody into Anchorage?!

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  • P34C0CK@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Take home assignments that take multiple hours sometimes, sacrificing a whole evening.

    Do NOT do this.

    Taking a live proficiency test is one thing, particularly if you’re applying for more senior roles, but doing actual projects for free in your spare time should be a hard pass. Full stop.

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    • hark@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I made the mistake of doing a take home assignment once. They didn’t even have the courtesy to give me feedback on it when I asked.

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    • CptBread@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not doing a home assignment(or work test as we call them) would mean never getting a job within the industry I work in, or at least not within the country I’m in.

      And as someone that have been on both sides of this they are a great tool especially as it gives something to focus on in a technical interview. Though I would say that a requirement for this is that you always give/get actual feedback.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t forget the tech listings that require 5 years experience in a particular programming language when the language has only even existed for the past 2 years…

    Catch-22 situations, where it’s impossible to meet the qualifications. 🤦‍♂️

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    • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is part of the interview. It’s to see if you can deal with project managers once you get hired.

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  • Anamnesis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Jesus Christ you just described my life for the last six months.

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  • monkeytennis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I feel like these are the real issues - I can’t tell if OP is meant to be a joke … “You forget the check the website and you miss the time”. I mean, that’s on you. Also it seems to me very easy to know the words an interviewer wants to hear, the real danger is that the job IS NOT as advertised.

    The number of interviews I used to it in on, and wonder WTF the interviewer was thinking… One asked a service designer “if you were a type of cake, what would you be?”

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    • solivine@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would disagree, those issues are valid too. Why does every website needs its own account, phone number etc? I get so many spam calls when I start looking for a job because of this. Just e-mail me. I’m not going to check your website every day for 2 weeks just to see if you get back to me.

      The spam calls also put less value on actually answering my phone, because half the time it is a spam call. Why does every recruiter need to call? Why does every site need a number when I just need one answer, yes or no. I have my CV, I have my skills on my CV, and with one reply I can send you a very short list of what I’m looking for in 2 minutes, not every job needs a 30 minute phone conversation only for the recruiter to decide they have nothing for me.

      And yes, there are magic words the interviewer wants to hear as well. As someone who sometimes struggles in higher pressure situations (which my field does not require at all btw), and also struggles with using the correct vocabulary or recalling random phrases and key words they want to hear, it’s frustrating to no end.

      Honestly, I feel this should have all been streamlined by now, especially when I’ve already worked somewhere for years and my company has been satisfied with my performance - why is this not enough? Why can’t this be quantified somehow? An alternative which very few companies do is give me a technical/practical interview that’s actually like the job as advertised. Much easier for remote roles, but can be done in person too. Let me do the job, show you I can do the job, and then you decide to hire me based on that.

      I do relate to your last point though, the amount of unrelated riddles or whatever get asked to ‘see how I think’ or something is ridiculous. Even when I get the answers right, the interviewer themselves don’t seem sure. I don’t get it.

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    • jarfil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One asked a service designer “if you were a type of cake, what would you be?”

      “Cheesecake with chocolate frosting. Don’t ask me why, it’s confidential.” (stupid questions deserve stupid answers)

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• Stupidmanager@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, problem 1 is using indeed. What an obsolete site for most places. But i get the joke.

  Not that prospects are much better elsewhere. Like LinkedIn for instance with their “click here for instant apply” and then you see that you’re one of 50 people (today) to apply for this open role and some AI in the background estimated based on your profile that you have 22% chance of getting the job BUT if you pay for premium you can knock that 22% up to 50% and an AI writes you a better profile…

  I really do feel sorry for the crap the boomer gen and even my generation (genx) has left every generation after.

  #eattherich

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  • MinusPi@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What should I be using then?

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    • SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you listen to the crowd on here, a guillotine on the ruling classes.

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    • Stupidmanager@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Depends on your level and job. Honestly I’m still going to say LinkedIn in most cases, if only because Its the professional social network. Companies can look you up, so you need a good profile to attract those recruiters that pay to find people. It’s a sick game, but at least now there are AI profile services that can help you get ahead.

      Indeed is cheap and used by cheap recruiters to get the most applicants directed to some other job board that costs them near nothing to aggregate resumes. You can’t even be sure you’re using the company job site to apply in some cases. At least with LinkedIn you can do the searching for the real job post.

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    • creditCrazy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A gun pointed at your head

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    • DEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve had a lot of response back through LinkedIn. Landed one of my jobs through it. Other three were personal and professional connections.

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    • baduhai@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      All of the jobs I’ve had in my life, that I didn’t get rough personal connexions, I’ve found on glassdoor.

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  • bemenaker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Except indeed has replaced every job listing and recruitment. Even the “top” recruiting firms now are doing all their work on indeed.

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    • Stupidmanager@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yep. Comes down to money and they can’t make big money off you if you hide behind the great LinkedIn pay wall. Look, recruiters like everyone else are trying to milk every penny out of their sale (you). You say “top” but are they exclusive? Are you applying at the company portal? Can you find this job yourself and apply direct? Top recruiters doesn’t mean as much as is used to. Right now you’re one of 30 applicants being submitted by a semi-competent recruiter that uses a tool to evaluate how much your resume fits and how much profit they can make if they bring you in under the salary range.

      Indeed is a crap job site used by cheap recruiters. at least with LinkedIn you’re better armed with searching.

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  • seang96@spgrn.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At my last job I got sick of the management so I just did easy apply to like 50 jobs that were suitable as they came up. Actually got my current job from it. Unfortunately probably won’t happen now since there are like 20k laid off people looking in my field.

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    • Anamnesis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have applied to over 500 jobs on LinkedIn. I got one interview. I swear sometimes that it’s all just a hamster wheel and nobody ever gets a job through it.

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• UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My hubby went in for an interview and was told he got the job so he told his other prospective employers that he was no longer interested. Before he could arrange a start date, they ghosted him. He tried to call but it went to an outsourced helpdesk that told him they would create a ticket and he would get a call back. No call after several days. He physically went into the place and the hiring manager seemed flustered that he was there and told him they would contact him. After two weeks from when he was told he would get the job, he finally got a hold of the guy he interviewed with and was told they gave the position to someone else because he was “unreachable”.

  Problems like this are the reason why I don’t hold loyalty to any company unless they’ve proven their competency. The ones that are good rarely hire because the employees don’t want to leave.

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  • solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah that’s why I hold off on turning down other offers until the last possible moment when I know 100% the new gig is locked down. Then you inform them as gently and kindly as possible to leave the door open if it doesn’t work out. Usually the good ones won’t take it personally and are open to working together in the future if you decide to leave.

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  • Arda1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Was scared of the same thing happening to me, was ghosted for 2 MONTHS and was about to start at a different place when they finally reached back with a bunch of excuses. The same company says they desperately need more workers lol

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• Bye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “No one wants to work anymore” does not mean what it’s individual words imply. It’s like “fucking hell”. It has a different meaning.

  It means “we don’t want to pay, we think labor is too expensive”

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  • TurtleJoe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That and/or, “I’m such a raging asshole that I’ve created a terrible, toxic environment and everybody always quits.”

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  • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “No one wants to work anymore”

    Yeah, Karen. No one wants to work in the first place. You think you deserve employees who will accept crackers as payment for the joy and excitement of generating value for a company so you don’t have to?

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    • HelloHotel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Literally, people like rslash used to exploit whenever reddit tells stories (unclear if their even real) about karens demanding labor so cheap, these ‘people’ ask coerse people to work for them for less than half of what you’d expect from a gig or office job.

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• Transcriptionist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  "You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. The silence is deafening.

  "You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. Half of them require you to create an account on the company website. You have a trail of ghost accounts that will be used once and never again. You never receive a response.

  "You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. One employer offers an interview, but it’s so rare for you to receive any response that you forget to check the website and you miss the time.

  "You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. One employer offers an interview, but you don’t know the magic words that signal to the esoteric mind of an interviewer that you’re fit for the job.

  "You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. One employer e-mails you saying that ‘unfortunately, you do not have the qualifications we are looking for’. You check the job again and see you applied to be a menial labourer.

  "You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. Half of them require a car a car. No one stops to ask how you’re supposed to afford one with no job.

  "You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. One employer offers a job. The commute makes you want to die in your sleep.

  "You call the HR manager for the workplace in hopes of arranging an interview more directly. They don’t even have an answering machine.

  “Employers complain that no one wants to work anymore.”

  [I am a human, if I’ve made a mistake please let me know. Please consider providing alt-text for ease of use. Thank you. 💜]

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  • HelloHotel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• all4one@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I finally got to experience this from the inside. I was on the team that interviewed people to back fill my position after I was promoted. We didn’t interview 1 external candidate. Promoted someone from below and then hired a new entry level person. We realized our internal hire has less experience, but they were the safe fast option that could get started right away.

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  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s so, so frustrating that so many places require a job to be posted even when there’s an internal candidate and it’s already been decided. I work in government where we’re often hard-required to post all jobs and it sucks to see so many people applying for a job when I know they absolutely will not be considered for the role.

    In my experience, a majority of job postings are essentially fake because it’s already been decided, and I hate it.

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• That_One_Demon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You had me until missing an interview is not your fault. When I got an interview I wrote that date and time on everything. I couldnt go five feet without a reminder. If you miss an interview (barring medical or personal emergency) that’s on you, but I guess that’s an unpopular opinion.

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  • UdeRecife@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I read it differently. It’s an ambience. The author is not taking off actual interviews being scheduled.

    Rather, replies to your applications are so few that you end up getting frustrated. Because of that, in the long run, you forget checking the website. Now, if in the meanwhile you get a reply, nobody’s home to receive it.

    You miss it not because you’re lazy or careless, but because you’re human and there’s so much you can do to keep hoping.

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  • Tavarin@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    but it’s so rare for you to receive any response that you forget to check the website

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    • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Can’t you set notifications to be sent to your phone?

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  • _number8_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    not really the main point or any reason to dismiss the whole thing. we aren’t playthings for corporations, the whole interviewing facade where we’re supposed to be dutiful and perfect and company-fearing is dumb

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  • Fedizen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Did you misread the second paragraph?

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  • BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This has happened to me and there’s some confusion in the comments so I’ll attempt to clarify here, it’s not missing an interview in the way we’re perceiving it. What happens is;

    On indeed, you can pre-fill out an application and “quick apply” to most jobs, and that’s the entire application process for that job. If you’re accepted for an interview, they will message you on the indeed app or maybe via email.

    But many of the jobs you can apply to on indeed don’t accept quick apply and instead direct you to their website, where you apply again, and from then on must log into their site frequently checking back for responses, potential invites to interviews, recommendations for other openings etc.

    So they’re not missing an interview they’ve been notified about, they’re missing the notification of an upcoming interview because they didn’t check the site that notified them.

    Is that still on them? Yeah, technically. But many, many sites are now doing this on indeed. Back when I was applying it didn’t take me long to be signed up for indeed + DG + Walmart+ Amazon + UPS etc etc.

    I’m sure I’m signed up to at least 50 different sites. 99% of those sites will never notify me of anything aside from other job openings.

    So you get forgetful sometimes, checking 50 sites a day can do that to you.

    Then one of them offers you an interview on their site, but you only checked 40 sites today and spent the rest of your time mass quick applying to 100 new jobs instead of checking the remaining 10 sites that had a .001% chance of actually offering you a job anyway.

    I mean, yeah, the blame is still on them. If you’re in desperate need of a job with nothing else going on then you should be religiously checking every site you’re signed up with. However, I can see forgetting to check one or two as well because there are a fucking lot and it’s a lot to remember.

    I remember hating to apply to jobs that required me to use their site so, so badly, because they ALREADY had my application from indeed but instead of just using that app they want me to arbitrarily sign up for their site instead, that’s likely much more of a hassle than indeed, and add ANOTHER fucking layer of difficulty to just getting a damn job.

    A better way to get employees seems to be to just accept quick applications from indeed, message them on the app and just set up a damn interview. With indeed available I’m not sure why these companies even use their own sites.

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• mulcahey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You apply for 20 jobs on Indeed. “Do you want to fill out the application manually, or upload your resume?” You select the latter and upload your resume. Indeed loads the next page: “Please fill out your work history manually.” You scream 20 times

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• Spzi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Very similar to finding a new home.

  Bonus challenge: Find a new home without a job.

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  • Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I am on lifelong disability which means I get a guaranteed amount of money each month for life.

    No landlords will touch me, a person with a GUARANTEED INCOME.

    However, if you have a job, that you can get fired from or quit the next day, they’ll accept you. Blows my fucking mind.

    Btw, for anyone wondering, if I lose my job, the government will step in and give me money for my disability. If I have a job, they don’t give me money. If I have a shit job where I make a couple hundred per month, they’ll cover the difference. I don’t mooch off the government, but my point is that I’m lucky enough to have a safety net, and landlords are so dumb they run away from it.

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Godspeed.

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    • Spzi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No landlords will touch me, a person with a GUARANTEED INCOME.

      However, if you have a job, that you can get fired from or quit the next day, they’ll accept you. Blows my fucking mind.

      Exactly, it’s crazy. Some even go further and require you to earn 3x as much as your rent.

      While I understand it’s a good rule of thumb to not spend more than 1/3 on rent … a good rule of thumb for THE RENTING PERSON, that is. Why would any landlord care if I eat oats or drive a lambo? As long as I pay my rent, what do they even care how much I have left?

      And since rents have been rising more than wages, satisfying this unecessary demand becomes increasingly difficult.

      Maybe it is because they are not rational homo economicuses. They find someone to rent their place anyways, so they can use their power to punish or reward people based on their societal ideals. Or simply have a say in what kind of people are allowed to live in that hood.

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    • mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Years ago I rented to a section 8 tenant. The rent was guaranteed and I receive a check in the mail directly from the housing authority. However, the tenant never took care of the house. At times, it seems she was unemployed, but was still receiving the assistance, which was nice I guess. But I don’t know what she does with her time because you’d think she will at least try to make the place that she lives in as clean / nice as she can with her time. Unfortunately, I ended up having to pay over $10k to fix up my house after she left, and the home has a lot of random damages like broken window screens, big holes in the walls, etc. Never have those issues with other tenants.

      Point is, many people who receive gov’t assistance never have their life together. And my experiences tell me to run away as fast as possible whenever I encounter them. As opposed to people who work hard for their money, they actually take care of the places.

      You may be different, but again, once bitten, twice shy.

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  • DJDarren@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh man. I’m in my 40s, working full time in an office-based, professional role and renting is fucky even for someone who can prove a stable income. You go to look at a house, only to find 20 other people queued up waiting. You like the house, you offer to rent it, only to find that it’s been rented to someone offering £200 a month more than the list price.

    It’s absolute shit.

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  • dufkm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Same with buying shoes; how do you expect me to go to the shoe store without having shoes to walk in?

    And for glasses; how can I find my glasses without glasses?

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    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      you were trying to be sarcastic, but instead you have revealed a major issue with the recidivism of homelessness and crime that affects every modern society.

      if one of us is in chains, none of us are free.

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    • Navy@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      For real though, don’t ask if I like the new frames I’m trying on. How am I supposed to know? I’m not wearing my glasses

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• erranto@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s a ridiculous situation, where you are left feeling like shit. and when you get the job you realize it is not you but the company is the shit

  I feel like I was born at the worst point in time.

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  • _number8_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    i hate how we’re supposed to act like we’re the Most Perfect fit for the role, and So Eager! – the most ideal human to ever walk the earth, specifically for this role.

    and you get the job and go there and the coworkers aren’t fucking god and apollo, it’s joey and mark

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    • erranto@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      1000 times this. it feels as if I am auditioning to an acting role and not a job interview. I have watched some videos on YouTube on how to ace a job interview in my field, I couldn’t finish a video without feeling my stomach churn. and it is through and through about what you can bring to their company, and very rarely about what they can bring to you.

      Even prostitution feels less dehumanizing than a regular job.

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  • Chunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I would rather be raped by Apple than raped be Mongols just saying.

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    • erranto@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A least back in that time I could just go into some desolate forest labor a patch of land, raise some chickens and not be bothered by anyone. now the homeless can’t even sleep in the park or public land without having the rich and the state chase them off.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the guys in the trenches in WW1 would love to trade places with you

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      At least in WWI I’d have gotten 4Fs and could off myself without any shame. In this life it’s like, shameful to give up but also impossible to get a scrap of enjoyment out of it.

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    • Indicah@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly I think I’d make that trade. At least if they lived they would have a house, family and kids to come home to. And a lifetime of prosperity. I’d trade a few horrible years for that.

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• MooseLad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m a graphic designer and I applied to over 100 jobs before a recruiter got back to me and said she loved my portfolio and sent it up the chain.

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  • WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And how long ago was that? And have you heard back since?

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    • MooseLad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That was earlier today so I haven’t heard anything yet.

      I also read an article recently that companies are posting “ghost jobs” where they don’t plan to hire anyone at all.

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• Otome-chan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  "the silence is deafening" sums up my job searching experience. I can apply to as many jobs as you'd like but I can't actually start working until the other side says yes. and they seem to not even register that my application has been sent. How am I supposed to work, if no employer ever even looks at my application?

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  • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    yOu’Re SuPpOsEd To CaLl ThEm YoUrSeLf!

    I fucking hate that. If they need the position filled, should they not be checking each and every applicant? Why do I ALSO need to call the place after I sent in my application/resume?

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    • Otome-chan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is that the case? What about companies that don't have a phone number and instead say to fill out their online form? Are you supposed to just hack them to get their number or something?

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  • TheCannonball@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is my experience too. I spent 5 months looking for a job on Indeed and LinkedIn but eventually got a job in a completely different field thanks to my father-in-law.

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    • Otome-chan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      gotta know someone with connections to get a job it seems.

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• DigitalFrank@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Put in about 40 apps on indeed. Got one interview, didn’t get job. Couple weeks later got an email from one employer that I wasn’t what the were looking for. I responded, thanking them for at least responding. Got the interview. I hit 5 years in the job next week.

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  • UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My current (UK) employer emails candidates just to say “sorry, but thanks for applying”. I dont get why any company wouldnt at least have the mechanism to email people an update.

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• Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I hire in technology. I can easily spend weeks filling a position. Candidates lie through their resumes and interviews 20 wasted interviews = 30 hours cultivating those interviews I have about a 26% no show, no response to missed interviews. Posting a job equals literally hundreds of emails, recruiters, off shore companies, and badly done resumes.

  Headhunters talk big and deliver bottom barrel candidates, no one likes recruiters, so great candidates hardly use them.

  When I use tools like one way interviews so I can screen hundreds of candidates, the feedback is “it’s not personal enough”, then no show on an appointment THEY MAKE

  I’m a small business, my resources for hiring aren’t extensive.

  Just want to give some flavor to the other side of this.

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• craftyindividual@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I almost died in my sleep commuting home from a job that barely covered fuel costs. Never again.

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• PostalDude@links.hackliberty.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This has literally been my experience! I’ve submitted near 100 applications and NOTHING! I’m 20, living at home with my parents breathing down my neck and saying how lazy I am for not getting a job while NO ONE will fucken hire me! I’ve even done walk in interviews and STILL NOTHING! I don’t know what to do anymore and feel like I’m stuck in hell. Cant leave this house cuz I’m broke, can’t get a car cuz I’m broke, can’t pay my crazy medical bills cuz I’m broke. College for me is over after this semester if I can’t get at least minimum wage employment and what do ppl say to me when I complian? WHY DONT YOU JUST GET A JOB!!? I’m so tired, I’m so done, just end me now.

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• CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Are they still complaining no one wants to work? I thought that reversed last year. When they WERE complaining about that it WAS pretty damn easy to get a job. For entry level stuff anyway. I had my pick of the litter, but now finding a better job is near impossible again, the way it was before COVID.

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• killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I won’t touch Indeed, but I appreciate that you don’t have a choice in some industries.

  I exclusively used “quick apply” systems when I was looking for a new role earlier this year, mainly via LinkedIn and Cord, and it was a much better experience. Fill everything in once, and then single click to send an application. There was the occasional redirect to a web form, less than half of which I filled in (as they were asking for things already in my application).

  Recruitment desperately needs this kind of disruption. I hope the trend continues.

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• Tofushopdriftin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Filter to “jobs that I can apply for/to from my phone”

  I agree with the core of this post, just trying to help anyone frustrated with entering the same information over and over, or making single use accounts for applications, can’t stand that shit and it makes the whole process shittier. Plus, you can apply to much more stuff without fatigue, strengthening the chance you’ll hear back from somebody

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• pixxelkick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can’t relate. I work in software dev, and had to do a bout of job applications over a few weeks a bit ago.

  Nearly every single job responded back asap confirming they got my application.

  Most of the declines emailed me back to inform me they declined a week or two later.

  I got several interviews, looking to asap connect.

  Most were normal and standard process. One was way too many steps and wasted my time.

  I got three offers tabled, and all were fine to give me a day or two to mull it over.i accepted the best offer and total was only unemployed for about 5 weeks total.

  What I can say is hot damn has ChatGPT made the application process take like 1/10th the work lol

  Did I make a simple little copy paste for chatgpt to quickly construct my cover letters? You bet your ass I did.

  Did one job call me out on it? Yes they did. And they liked it and expressed that having someone who was comfortable using AI tools was actually a plus.

  I sent out an LOT more than 20 applications though. I was averaging about 6 to 7 a day over 2 weeks, so prolly close to 120+ applications total.

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• OldManViper@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The meta for getting jobs rn is through networking. IIRC something like 70% of job positions are not posted. I have worked in the tech industry and food industry and found this to be true in both. For tech, building a strong network is more important than any degree/cert you could get imo. I wouldn’t even bother applying thru websites without a recommendation attached. I think ur time is better spent working on some sort of personal project and attending every conference/event in the area u can find for whatever ur tech domain is. Ideally if ur living in a tech “hub” or adjacent to one their usually is some sort of “area programming language/tech thing club” and joining is free. You can find them on facebook or meetup. Befriend some boomer nerds at them and eventually you’ll get access to their “network” and will have a lot easier time landing a job. U can be upfront too by saying shit like “I am looking to expand my network” and this is an OK way to signal “Let me know about job openings that ur friends have” / “please introduce me to important people”.

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• count_dongulus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t use Indeed, dumbass. Talk to a headhunter. They get paid by employers to find you a job. Every single professional job I’ve ever had has come through a headhunter, and the jobs have been great.

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• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Stop. Using. Indeed.

  It’s a glorified resumé scraping service for corpos. It’s free to use for job seekers right? That means YOUR INFORMATION IS THE PRODUCT. All Indeed does is look at what’s on your resumé, and then delivers that insight to corporations for a fee.

  Go handout resumés in person. If the company does not want you to do that, submit them through their career portal on their official website.

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• Eezyville@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You wooly for 20 jobs on Indeed. The ones that respond want you to do a one-way interview so they can discriminate against you without facing you.

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• solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Isn’t this more of an indictment of the Indeed platform than shitty employers?

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• A7thStone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I am so glad I an a Union member. I would probably be homeless if i had to deal with this shit. I mean, I have almost been homeless with my union, but without it I’d be screwed.

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• prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At least you have 20 indeed offers, in my country if you get 2 or 3 per week related to what you do is the max you can get.

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