Submitted 7 months ago by Deceptichum@kbin.social to [deleted]
https://kbin.social/m/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world/t/468911
As in, would the channel be losing out on money? Because I don't want to take away from small creators if there is a retention rate for viewership of that exact segment, but I would prefer to skip any of the "but first check out this shitty mobile game".
Not really. Content creators get an upfront amount to run the ad then either a fee per click on the sponsored link or when their code is used at checkout.
So by watching the ad and not using the promotion is the same as not watching the ad.
Also, your “view” still counts towards the content creator’s metrics (assuming you watch enough of the video). So the creator can use your view to sell more ads, whether you watch them or not.
It’s likely that more savvy advertisers are using video heat maps to see which types of videos get people to actually watch the ad, but the metrics on that are probably not as informative as just view count.
I am paying $15 (or is it $18 already) for YouTube each month not to watch the adds. I am skipping those angrily on principle.
YouTube premium, as far as I’m aware, still shares some of your monthly membership fee to the creators you watch to offset not seeing ads. I also am a premium member and feel no guilt at all about skipping sponsorship sections because of this.
If you are on Android, you really should download ReVanced. You can add adblock and sponsorblock, and you will barely ever see ads again.
I actually refused to watch YT on mobile because it was too annoying an experience, but 'vanced makes it much more like the good old days of no ads everywhere.
Vanced is advanced with ‘ad’ removed btw.
I found it a bit tedious having to build a new version whenever it broke. It's a bit less convenient but now I just click stare then Newpipe sponsorblock.
Does it support chromecasting? That is the only think keeping to the official yt app on mobile.
Otherwise I am using FF with an adblocker.
Damn paying $15 for YouTube when ublock origin and sponsorblock are browser extensions, and YouTube Revanced does everything YouTube plus gives you entirely for free on android.
Damn paying $15 for a service that is almost the sole source of my daily entertainment, crazy
Yep, but I have Samsung TV, and this is where I watch it.
While still funding meta. Great protest!
No, the creator has been paid for the sponsorship beforehand. If you were never going to get the products that are sponsored then there's no difference between skipping it or letting it play and ignoring it.
I mean yeah, youtube does track the times in videos people do watch and are engaged in, but by skimming through almost any video you can see many people skip around and don't actually watch the full videos.
Sponsorblock just saves me from manually skipping past the sponsorships. I was never going to buy a shilled product to begin with anyway. I buy things based on my own research, not what a youtuber says I should buy.
Sponsorblock is truly a gift from the gods
Some sponsors will pay additional money based on how many people use a provided promo link or promo code, but if you never click/use those anyway, you’re not costing the channel anything.
Immediately, no. The advert payments don't pay attention to you skipping the advert.
Over time, as people skip the ads, the value that advertisers put on the ads will diminish, as they realise that people won't see them.
The best solution would be to make the advert relevant to the video, or making them actually interesting (Like TomSka's over the top SurfShark ads), but that's me overthinking things again.
I’d 100% say that I’m less likely to skip an in-video sponsor segment if the creator has tried to make it a bit more entertaining than just an ad copy read with logos and stock footage of people walking on a beach.
I’d say map men and boyinaband are two that jump out to me as having several I’ve not skipped, there’s obviously others.
If advertisers aren’t already on to this, those are the spots they want to be paying for, and I’d hope that means the creators doing them are getting paid a lot for them
InternetHistorians ads are worth watching on their own
How do the advertisers know how frequently in-video ads have been skipped? Do they ask for historical data on this from the YouTuber before brokering the sponsorship for an individual video?
Technically no, has other people been saying. But long-term yes. Creatives need to have a revenue stream, so if everyone starts skipping all the sponsored segments, the revenue from sponsored segments will go down. Or it will change the nature of it so instead of a 30-second pitch, it will be incorporated into the main video constantly.
If you’re talking about a small creator, who’s not doing it full-time, considered donating to them directly. Most usually have the Patreon or something.
I use ublock origin and sponsorblock, I’m not sitting through ads or product shillings.
The custom-made "sponsors" sections that are baked into the video are not paid per view. You can freely skip them without harming the content creator. iirc they get paid per video upload, not per view. it's only the "live" separate ads that appear prior to the video, mid-roll, etc. that they get paid per view (and would be missing if you block them).
I release music via distributor to all music streaming platforms including YouTube. When playing my music, youtube puts ads before and sometimes after the video. Does that mean I’m getting a share of that ad revenue by default? Or is it for specific content creators that have a minimum number of subscribers only?
music is different. youtube has a deal with your label which states they pay $0.0000x dollars per stream, and your label gives you a part of that.
Youtube content creators get paid via a few different methods:
Pre-roll and mid-roll ads. This is youtube's actual and intended monetization method. These are ads that play that are separate from the video and are personalized per-user. They often have a "skip" button you can click after a few seconds. Youtube pays creators per view for these ads. You should check youtube's monetization section on the channel settings to set this all up.
Sponsors. These are baked into the video where the content creator usually goes something like "Yeah I enjoy my switch, but do you know what I like more? raid shadow legends!" These are one-time payments made prior to the video's release, and are not paid per view. The view count on the video and whether or not people are actually watching the sponsored section is irrelevant.
Patreon and other patreon-like services. These are entirely unrelated to viewcount or ads, and are just people paying monthly on some other site (typically patreon or locals) to help fund the channel.
For music, I'm not sure at all how the youtube music platform works. But afaik youtube music is just youtube videos in a different format, so you'd be going with method #1 with the pre-roll ads.
Typically youtube's monetization model requires that you actually set things up, and in order to do so you need to meet particular criteria (particular subscriber counts, view counts, etc). I know musicians work with music labels, so that may work differently depending on what's going on for you. But if you're specifically managing a youtube channel where you upload videos, then #1 applies and just check the monetization section. I don't think it's "by default".
Don’t worry about channel creators losing money. It may seem like a dick move, but it’s the right thing to do. When channels see that they aren’t making money on Youtube ad revenue, they’ll be forced to either find another source of income (merch, patreon, alternate site, etc), or quit.
That’s better for you, them, and society as a whole since it reduces the power of a monopoly owned by an evil company.
If you mean the ads that are actually part of video where the YouTuber is just reading the ad themselves, I don’t think it makes a big difference. It might impact their metrics a little since you’re fast forwarding part of the video but that’s it
If sponsors cared they can look at the,( I don’t know the name) bar that shows how far the video in a long. On you there is a chart that says where people will skip to ( on computer). On almost every sponsored video there is a huge spike right at the end of the sponsorship. It takes a few days for this to show up but it always shows the same spike
I guess in theory yes, because sponsors would eventually notice a drop in people spending money through the creator.
Personally, I haven’t and won’t ever use a product just because my favourite entertainer was paid to say its good. Before SponsorBlock I just manually skipped or tuned them out anyway, so I never counted in the first place.
That implies that the person skipping the ad would have purchased in the first place.
Ads are like Nigerian Prince schemes. They are targeted at the people who are willing to engage. Skipping them is no different than ignoring them.
You won’t be able to skip them soon anyway, I thought?
They're referring to "Let me stop talking about the topic of this video to tell you about Shadow Shark, thr VPN Game" type sponsorships. Is YouTube planning on disabling the scrub bar now or what?
Don’t give them ideas.
Theoretically no, they want people to ignore those built-in sponsorships, so the advertisers go straight to Google’s ad service
The day I start a “garbage bin” channel, I will happily decline all sponsorship offers I get. Sure, it makes me money, but I don’t wanna endorse a company I actually don’t like, and then end up wasting my viewers’ time while also lying to them (cough cough Raycon). So how else will I get money? I’ll tell my viewers to Buy Me a Coffee (those 4 words are actually a real website).
So when is the “garbage bin” happening? I think a decade from now at most.
Not as long as you have bought one of everything from their merchandise shop.
schwim@reddthat.com 7 months ago
I won’t sit through a non-organic product placement. If I’m watching a guy weld up a body panel and he tells me how great a welder is, it doesn’t bother me. If I’m watching and he starts telling me about his VPN or a phone game, that shit’s getting skipped.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You know how I like to prepare for replacing a carburetor? PLAYING RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS!
evranch@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Product placement has got to the point where if a YouTuber genuinely wants to recommend a product he’s got to be like “seriously guys I didn’t get paid for this and I even paid my own money for this welder, this is not a sponsorship, I just think it’s really good and you should check it out”
cobysev@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I watch several channels where people just mow lawns or do other landscaping work (it’s my version of ASMR; doing yard work was a nostalgic childhood memory of mine).
One of the guys I watch bragged about how amazing his riding mower was. He swore up and down he wasn’t a shill for the company, and he even painted over their logo so he wasn’t inadvertently advertising their brand on his channel. But he said it was the best mower he’s used in decades of work.
Eh_I@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I really like when they drink the green goo and pretend it’s the best.
scarabic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It seems like a lot of businesses have a turnkey affiliate/referral rewards program. Like how anyone can go set up Amazon affiliate links.
But the creator presents it as a sponsorship. “Today’s video is sponsored by SquareSpace!”
No it’s not, you’re just posting your affiliate link.