How are you supposed to help the victim while simultaneously avoid being falsely accused of being the perpetrator?
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People often say "Don't talk to the police", but what if a friend, neighbor, or a loved one gets kidnapped and you want to help the victim?
Submitted 17 hours ago by DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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rosie2007@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 16 hours ago
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In Greece, last year, a woman asked the police to accompany her to her house because she was suspecting her ex was following her and was gonna hurt her and they told her “the patrol car is not a taxi”.
Soon after she was stabbed to death by her ex…
Police can’t really be trusted. It is also likely that they might turn on the victim.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Since at least 1976, police have picked up Indigenous men, women, and boys, then left them miles outside the city on sub-zero winter nights, leading to what’s known as the Saskatoon freezing deaths.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 14 hours ago
Saskatoon isn’t the US.
Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com 17 hours ago
Are the cops in the US really that bad? Not all, but yes. And since it’s impossible to know if the one cop you talk to is that bad, or covers for someone who is, best to assume they all are.
lusterko@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
I work as an interpreter, and sometimes I have to work with the US/UK police. They aren’t as evil as people make it seem. Yes, there are some assholes and idiots, but most of the time they’re trying to be nice and helpful.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
The problem is that the organizations themselves are corrupt and these “nice and helpful” cops will side with said corrupt organization and the piece of shit criminal cops they protect 99 times out of 100.
MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
It depends. Location, race, social status, and luck determine what kind of experience someone gets
anachrohack@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Even if you’re white, the police are chronically underfunded and so if you report a crime they often dont do anything at all about it other than maybe filing a report. If your car gets stolen, you’re never seeing that car again
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Are the cops in the US really that bad?
News items are news because they are rare. The US amplifies it’s negatives in search of eyeballs and in search of fixing problems. The average officer is average, not the extreme you see on the news.
HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Yeah but whenever multiple cops show up to a scene, there’s almost always one bad cop there. Then the “average” cops don’t do a thing to stop the bad one, and you end up with a bunch of bad cops.
realcaseyrollins 14 hours ago
It really depends on the police department. Some are good, some are bad.
The real problem is the police unions. They protect bad cops and make them hard to fire, so usually if someone acts up, the most a police department can do is have that officer transferred.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 16 hours ago
Well. Are you white and cis-passing?
Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
cis-passing?
What does this mean?
Aitolda@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
offered snacks
You had me at “offered snacks”
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
That’s the fun part, you can’t. A lot depends on the details here. You’re looking for a one-size-fits-all answer to a very not-one-size situation.
In 99% of cases a major crime like a kidnapping that I know I didn’t have anything to do with should be reported immediately, and “speaking to the police” only ceases when I become aware they have decided to suspect my involvement. In the other 1% of cases, I have understood how bad it looks and I’m talking immediately to the best lawyer I can find and letting them do all the talking from the beginning.
ameancow@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Don’t be obtusely literal.
If someone is in trouble, you need help and you reach out to anyone and everyone you can to get that help. Don’t trust the police to be your friend always, so don’t go spouting incriminating shit about how you and your friend were getting high or something, don’t approach them belligerently, but give it every attempt to get someone’s attention and take it seriously. The idea that someone has to be missing 24 hours is a myth if you have good reason to believe they’re in trouble. Be respectful and coherent and provide as much evidence as you can.
Look, I don’t like cops either. But the couple times I’ve dealt with home invaders, there was nobody else I rather see coming down the hall as I was wrestling the intruder.
We need a new system and overhauled oversight and management of law enforcement, but we also still need law enforcement. The two things can exist simultaneously.
bdjukemgood@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Help them investigate someone else. If you are the one they are investigating, shut your mouth.
remon@ani.social 17 hours ago
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t apply when you’re the one calling the police.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Yea but like how do you know what the cops are thinking. They could assume its a “self-report” if they can’t find any suspects. I watched a documentary where the boyfriend was immediately their #1 suspect, but thankfully they later found evidence that someone else did it, and that he wasn’t involved with his girlfriend’s disappearance. That could’ve turn out poorly if the cops were being dicks.
remon@ani.social 17 hours ago
I guess in that case you have to weight that risk against how much you like your girlfriend.
Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Romantic partners are basically always looked at by investigators because of how frequently they end up being the personal responsible for the crime.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
But wouldn’t it look more suspicious if she was missing for a week and the boyfriend “just didn’t want to get the cops involved”?
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Lawyer.
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
Learn to be more like Liam Neeson.
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
“don’t talk to the police” is above for not incriminating yourself and also not reporting stuff that isn’t hurting anyone. If you think someone is kidnapped or missing you should call the police immediately. If they want to interrogate you then don’t talk to them and get a lawyer there asap.